IowaLaw's Objective Post Game Analysis: Nebraska
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We were also told Ruddock sucked the year Vandenburg took every snap. Ruddock made NFL practice squad, Vandy never got a sniff. I do think its possible nobody is better than Hill but I don't think it is a big deal to give a backup a shot at playing when starter stinks.
@markfromj - Whether our second QB sucks or not is irrelevant. Our first QB sucks. If he's not accountable after throwing bad ball after bad ball and taking dumb sack after dumb sack, how deflating must that be to the rest of the team who are busting their asses and ARE accountable?
@jonesy5960 - I agree on the distribution of carries. It seems like Brian wants to create a separate back who only comes in on 3rd down. Strangely, he picked Patterson, who has only caught 3 passes all year (the 3rd down back specialty is exclusively for backs who are a threat in the passing game). That dilutes the number of carries Johnson gets.
@DropitlikeitsHawk - uhh yeah, star kicker. Drew Stevens was a semi-finalist for the Lou Groza award THIS YEAR, and has made the 2nd most field goals (most long field goals) in the Big 10. You either have a very short term memory, or you've never watched a Hawkeye game. For Kirk to bench him after 1 bad game should really make true Hawk fans scratch their heads when guys like Hill can make mistake after mistake and play every down of every series.
@BlIIlken2 - I'll answer your question for you. The offenses in the Big 10 west suck. Like historically bad. If it were just great defenses, they'd be able to stop offenses from the Big 10 east. They cannot.
@Phenomenally Frantastic - the only quarrel I have with your post is that I don't think Goetz had anything to do with the decision to fire Brian. She's taken way more credit than deserved for an interim AD who's only been familiar with the U of I for a year. She takes her orders and executes them and lacks the clout to make that kind of decision on her own. As for the poor QB coaching and development at Iowa, you are 100% correct.
@littlez - we already saw what happens if Iowa goes conservative against a team with a pulse. 31-0 loss to Penn State. The defense will break if the offense goes 3 and out time and time again running the ball up the middle for no gain. Iowa's only chance is to mix it up and throw the ball down the field. With those, at least there's a 50/50 chance of getting a pass interference call.
I was referring to next Saturday’s game which is for the Big Ten Title. Last I checked the Hawks are in that game.
I actually agree w/most of your points. However in your first point you said our 1st Qb sucks. We can say throw caution to the wind against Michigan but we have 2 strengths in this team and it's been our defense and special teams, field goal team the last 2 weeks kind of an anomaly. If Brown plays sure, try and get him the ball. He's our only playmaker we have besides our running backs. But after another 10-28 game against Nebraska and now playing a much better defense in Michigan I'd rather not see Deacon tossing the ball around a lot. Our defense is going to be tired either way. Completing 33% of your passes stops the clock and puts even more pressure on the defense.
Minnesota and Nebraska perfect examples of the downside to Hill passing. Had a chance to win both games and threw interceptions on both drives.
#6. That throw by Deac that got picked at the end was ultra conservative? The conservative thing to do would have been to play for OT.
Your definition of a star is quite different than mine.
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What's everyone think of Xavier Nwankpa so far?
Seems pretty quiet, not sure that's a good thing at the S position?
Seems pretty quiet, not sure that's a good thing at the S position?
I think he’s been solid, especially dealing with a hand issue the past few weeks. Didn’t make as many splash plays as I’d have thought, but the defense as a whole hasn’t created as many turnovers as we’re used to seeing this year.
plus kf would go naked running thru the old capitol with a pint of ice cream before he would do that anyways
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Overall I’d argue the OL play would warrant a B or maybe B- at worst considering the injuries related to the passing game as well.
On running up the middle on 3rd and long......I wish we did it at the 10 instead of running wide and ensuring a horrible angle for fg attempt. If it had been done the other 2 times just like on the final fg maybe we don't miss them either. On short fg attempts from hashes why not snap deeper into backfield and center it on the field?
To be fair, we asked that same question when Petras was here and yet we find new and unique ways to double down each year for QBs.
Shit he fell down in the end zone against Nebraska. Fumbled snap against Wisconsin when setting up for game clinching field goal. Two chances to win games vs Minnesota and Nebraska and threw interceptions both times.
Deacon made a game saving play when he either tripped or got stepped on in the endzone against Nebraska. That was a hell of a play for him to toss it to Leshon.
Which is why we should run. Now, he might get tripped up by our own linemen like he did twice on Saturday, one that would have resulted in a possible safety or TD for Nebby, but I still feel pretty solid about the handoff thing most of the time. Lol.
Point well taken. Not a good game when the highlight of game is getting rid of ball before falling down.
14/24 for 139 yds, 1 TD no ints. QB rating 49.4
Hill v Nebraska. 11/28 for 94 yds, no TD's 1 int.
I'd have to say both were pretty bad. Hill has had more game experience by now to his advantage, and he clearly sucks. But I don't think I would characterize Labas as pretty good.
2 td's and 1 int. Less than 200 yds passing avg per game. Improvements from earlier in season but hardly anything to get excited about. If that's the best, well, it is Iowa football.
Unfortunately the past few year years when you talk about Iowa QBs on the roster…it comes down to ‘who doesn’t suck the most’!?!?
We are clueless/have the worst luck at finding and developing good QBs and WRs…Maybe Copeland should be shown the door along with BF?
NW is 7-5
Wisc. is 7-5
ISU is 7-5
All good wins. All on the road.
10 wins with the injuries etc. was a miracle year. Better Iowa teams have lost to worse ISU, NW and Wisconsin teams. What Power 5 team didn't beat a bunch of crappy teams?
I would like to see people like you at a tailgate with some Hawkeye player families and discuss how shitty their sons are and how bad the competition was this year. My guess is you may not act like the smartest guy in the room.
By the way, your analysis is nothing more than a repeat of viewpoints espoused 1,000 times already this season.
All average wins at best. Northwestern was a road game in name only. Iowa State has improved dramatically. Not sure if Iowa beats that team now. Worst Wisconsin team we’ve seen in decades.
Put me at a tailgate with those parents and I’d tell them how sorry I am that they have to play for Brian Ferentz and how all the offensive guys deserve so much better.
Funny how ISU always improves dramatically after they lose to Iowa. (ISU was Iowa's easiest Power 5 win)
Hell, Big 12 defenses would make Deacon Hill look like a Heismann candidate.
@blubberhawk - which Big 12 team, exactly, would make Deacon Hill look like a Heisman candidate? Texas? Oklahoma? Hill completed 33% of his passes against 5 win Minnesota. He threw for 37 yards against Wisconsin.
You're right, though, it must be the super loaded Big 10 west that prevented Hill from looking like a Heisman candidate and not the fact that he is the worst starting QB in the power 5.
No they wouldn’t. We might somehow win (we usually do) but it wouldn’t have anything to do with the offense. Just like last Fridays game and most games this season.
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