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***Official Euro 2020 & Copa America 2021 Thread***

LesClaypool

LesClaypool

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...even though it's really 2021.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/uefa-eu...-fixtures-schedulematch-datestimes-and-venues

GROUP STAGE

Friday, June 11
Group A: Italy vs. Turkey (Rome; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Saturday, June 12
Group A: Wales vs. Switzerland (Baku; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group B: Denmark vs. Finland (Copenhagen; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group B: Belgium vs. Russia (Saint Petersburg; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ABC

Sunday, June 13
Group D: England vs. Croatia (London; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group C: Austria vs. North Macedonia (Bucharest; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group C: Netherlands vs. Ukraine (Amsterdam; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Monday, June 14
Group D: Scotland vs. Czech Republic (Glasgow; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group E: Poland vs. Slovakia (Saint Petersburg; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group E: Spain vs. Sweden (Seville; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Tuesday, June 15
Group F: Hungary vs. Portugal (Budapest; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group F: France vs. Germany (Munich; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Wednesday, June 16
Group B: Finland vs. Russia (Saint Petersburg; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group A: Turkey vs. Wales (Baku; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group A: Italy vs. Switzerland (Rome; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Thursday, June 17
Group C: Ukraine vs. North Macedonia (Bucharest; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group B: Denmark vs. Belgium (Copenhagen; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group C: Netherlands vs. Austria (Amsterdam; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Friday, June 18
Group E: Sweden vs. Slovakia (Saint Petersburg; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group D: Croatia vs. Czech Republic (Glasgow; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group D: England vs. Scotland (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Saturday, June 19
Group F: Hungary vs. France (Budapest; 9 a.m. ET, 3 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group F: Portugal vs. Germany (Munich; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group E: Spain vs. Poland (Seville; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ABC

Sunday, June 20
Group A: Italy vs. Wales (Rome; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN2
Group A: Switzerland vs. Turkey (Baku; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Monday, June 21
Group C: North Macedonia vs. Netherlands (Amsterdam; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group C: Ukraine vs. Austria (Bucharest; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN2
Group B: Russia vs. Denmark (Copenhagen; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN2
Group B: Finland vs. Belgium (Saint Petersburg; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Tuesday, June 22
Group D: Czech Republic vs. England (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group D: Croatia vs. Scotland (Glasgow; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN2

Wednesday, June 23
Group E: Slovakia vs. Spain (Seville; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
Group E: Sweden vs. Poland (Saint Petersburg; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN2
Group F: Germany vs. Hungary (Munich; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN2
Group F: Portugal vs. France (Budapest; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

ROUND OF 16

The allocation of best third-placed will depend upon which four groups provide the teams.

Saturday, June 26
37- Runners-up Group A vs. Runners-up Group B (Amsterdam; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
38 - Winners Group A vs. Runners-up Group C (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ABC

Sunday, June 27
39 - Winners Group C vs. 3rd in D/E/F (Budapest; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
40 - Winners Group B vs. 3rd in A/D/E/F (Seville; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ABC

Monday, June 28
41 - Runners-up Group D vs. Runners-up Group E (Copenhagen; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
42 - Winners Group F vs. 3rd in A/B/C (Bucharest; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Tuesday, June 29
43 - Winners Group D vs. Runners-up Group F (London; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
44 - Winners Group E vs. 3rd in A/B/C/D (Glasgow; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

QUARTERFINALS

Friday, July 2
45 - Winners Match 41 vs Winners Match 42 (Saint Petersburg; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
46 - Winners Match 37 vs Winners Match 39 (Munich; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

Saturday, July 3
47 - Winners Match 38 vs Winners Match 40 (Baku; noon ET, 6 p.m. CET) - ESPN
48 - Winners Match 43 vs Winners Match 44 (Rome; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ABC

SEMIFINALS

Tuesday, July 6
49 - Winners Match 45 vs Winners Match 46 (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN


Wednesday, July 7
50 - Winners Match 47 vs Winners Match 48 (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN

FINAL

Sunday, July 11
Winners Match 49 vs Winners Match 50 (London; 3 p.m. ET, 9 p.m. CET) - ESPN
 
can somebody explain why third place pool teams can still advance?

I know there are only 6 groups but this feels strange to me!
 
It's b/c they greedily and foolishly expanded the field. It used to be 16 teams...way more competitive. No patsies.
Now there are 24 teams, and North Macedonia is one of them. Ay Caramba!
 
LesClaypool said:
It's b/c they greedily and foolishly expanded the field. It used to be 16 teams...way more competitive. No patsies.
Now there are 24 teams, and North Macedonia is one of them. Ay Caramba!
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yeah at least nobody big is left out though. One thing I’ve always liked about the Euros is every team truly does belong in the tourney… maybe that’s changed now.

I don’t follow rankings that closely but I can’t imagine wales is that great either.

I was surprised to hear England is one of the favorites? Harry Kane and their other strikers are scary but do they have a good enough defensive backfield to compete with the attacks teams like France, Belgium, Germany, et al bring ?
 
Today's Match: Turkey vs Italy, from Rome @ 3PM ET

(Opening Ceremony at 2PM ET on ESPN)

I love the Euros!
 
Pepperman said:
yeah at least nobody big is left out though. One thing I’ve always liked about the Euros is every team truly does belong in the tourney… maybe that’s changed now.

I don’t follow rankings that closely but I can’t imagine wales is that great either.

I was surprised to hear England is one of the favorites? Harry Kane and their other strikers are scary but do they have a good enough defensive backfield to compete with the attacks teams like France, Belgium, Germany, et al bring ?
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I think England's backline is not elite but pretty solid with several good options (RB being the best in terms of guys who can join the attack). The one thing they're missing though is anyone who's an obvious fit or would even be a decent option in the Kante role. As is usual, I think they'll fail to establish control in the midfield against the top sides and again be undone by below average goalkeeping.

England is often thought to suffer from Big-Ten-in-the-NCAA-tournament syndrome (aka "the regular season is so hard that by the time we reach the end we are beat up").
 
BeepBeepInMyJeep said:
I think England's backline is not elite but pretty solid with several good options (RB being the best in terms of guys who can join the attack). The one thing they're missing though is anyone who's an obvious fit or would even be a decent option in the Kante role. As is usual, I think they'll fail to establish control in the midfield against the top sides and again be undone by below average goalkeeping.

England is often thought to suffer from Big-Ten-in-the-NCAA-tournament syndrome (aka "the regular season is so hard that by the time we reach the end we are beat up").
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Without opining on anything you said, I absolutely love that it's now increasingly being referred to as some derivation of "the Kante role."

So well deserved!

The best comment on that came from the last guy who had the position named after him...

"People talk about the Makelele position, but I am old and it is time everybody called it the Kante position. N'Golo deserves that," (Claude) Makelele was quoted as saying. (that was 4 years ago)

High praise!

https://www.besoccer.com/new/makelele-role-is-now-the-kante-role
 
It's hard not to like France but my pick to win is going to be Belgium, I just think they're due to breakthrough and get the big one they've been missing.

My under-the-radar pick to impress and run deep would be Turkey. They lack the star power but have experienced leadership and could even surprise with a result today.
 
BeepBeepInMyJeep said:
It's hard not to like France but my pick to win is going to be Belgium, I just think they're due to breakthrough and get the big one they've been missing.

My under-the-radar pick to impress and run deep would be Turkey. They lack the star power but have experienced leadership and could even surprise with a result today.
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I can't settle on a pick to win it all. Just hoping for a great tournament with lots of late entertaining football for the neutral watcher.

I'm supporting England though, officially, but only on the basis that they have Bukayo Saka in their squad. If he wasn't there, I'd probably be supporting Belgium, as De Bruyne is my favorite non-Arsenal player in World Football.
 
Some of these teams really are not better than the USA. Also, Lukaku is Belgian? Yeah....uh huh sure.
 
And the 2nd goal...a poach from Ciro Immobile.

Italy in control, 2-0 in the 67th minute.
 
Interesting stat:



Going for Denmark (my dark horse pick) and Netherlands by birth. Poland by choice. ^
 
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I am in a six-person pool.

My teams are France, Poland, Wales, and Finland

Group stage -- 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, zero for a loss

Knockout stage -- 3 points for a win, 2 points for a PK loss, 1 point for an extra time loss, zero points for a regular time loss.
 
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Can I change my answer? Italy looks really really good. Turkey is certainly no world beater, but they ripped through the Netherlands and Haaland’s Norway back in March. They have 3 starters in Lille.
 
LesClaypool said:
It's b/c they greedily and foolishly expanded the field. It used to be 16 teams...way more competitive. No patsies.
Now there are 24 teams, and North Macedonia is one of them. Ay Caramba!
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Who did N Macedonia beat out? Greece?
 
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Who did N Macedonia beat out? Greece?
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there was a Nations League repechage so anyone not finishing top 2 in their group goes to a playoff if they win their nations league group. So they were playing Kosovo, Georgia and Belarus from the bottom level.
 
Good to see a nice crowd for Denmark vs Finland.

Switzerland is in a bad place now, they needed that 3 pts with Italy next.
 
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Good to see a nice crowd fot Denmark vs Finland.

Switzerland is in a bad place now, they needed that 3 pts with Italy next.
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Based on the earlier match, odds are good that the CONCACAF Gold Cup beats the Euros again on attendance this summer.

Minnesota U.F.C have two starters for Finland...
 
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One of the worst things to happen to a player, and one of the best players in the world too, as if it weren’t shocking enough.

EDIT: It was a stagger and collapse without contact. Even more troubling.
 
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Good thing these idiots stuck to tradition and brought a stretcher out on the field and did CPR for 8 minutes when a golf cart to an ambulance to the hospital could’ve happened in half the time
 
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