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*******Session 4 Thread*******

Nevills is solid. So is Beard. Doesn’t make sense to cut hard and there be little to no benefit.

As much as I love Steveson, the Hodge is Spencer’s.

Also...how the hell was Kerk only dinged twice for stalling? He spent the whole 2nd period on his belly with his face in the mat while Cass was working the arms to the side. Unreal.
I take it that stalling question is rhetorical? It's one of Cael's boys, same shit different day. It really is amazing, time after time after time.
 
Congrats. Hoping we can turn some of those matches around in a couple weeks but for now we have an uphill battle
 
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Steveson is a punk because he's been hangin with Brock Lesnar for a few years.

BTW: I'd take Snyder vs GS all day long.
Snyder lost to Adam Coon his senior year. Steveson would beat him without issue. Wouldn’t be able to overcome the size difference with someone as good as Gable. I don’t care for the guy either but he is damn good.
 
2021 Big Ten Championships
Points Per Individual
Spencer Lee (Iowa)24
Gable Steveson (Minnesota)23.5
Jaydin Eierman (Iowa)21
Michael Kemmerer (Iowa)21
Ryan Deakin (Northwestern)21
Aaron Brooks (Penn State)20
Sammy Sasso (Ohio State)20
Alex Marinelli (Iowa)19
Myles Amine (Michigan)19
Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State)19
Tony Cassioppi (Iowa)18.5
Mason Parris (Michigan)18
Carter Starocci (Penn State)17
Taylor Venz (Nebraska)17
John Poznanski (Rutgers)16.5
Nick Lee (Penn State)16.5
Devin Schroder (Purdue)16
Ethan Smith (Ohio State)16
Sebastian Rivera (Rutgers)16
Chase Saldate (Michigan State)15.5
Lucas Byrd (Illinois)15.5
Austin DeSanto (Iowa)15
Eric Schultz (Nebraska)15
Kaleb Young (Iowa)15
Rayvon Foley (Michigan State)15
Ridge Lovett (Nebraska)15
Chad Red (Nebraska)14.5
Chris Cannon (Northwestern)14.5
Greg Kerkvliet (Penn State)14.5
Jacob Warner (Iowa)14.5
Cameron Amine (Michigan)13.5
Malik Heinselman (Ohio State)13.5
Brayton Lee (Minnesota)12.5
Logan Massa (Michigan)12.5
Mikey Labriola (Nebraska)12.5
Kendall Coleman (Purdue)12
Mike VanBrill (Rutgers)12
Cameron Caffey (Michigan State)11.5
Michael Blockhus (Minnesota)11.5
Nelson Brands (Iowa)11.5
Peyton Robb (Nebraska)11.5
Brady Berge (Penn State)11
Christopher Weiler (Wisconsin)11
Gerrit Nijenhuis (Purdue)11
Jake Tucker (Michigan State)10.5
Donnell Washington (Indiana)10
Jacob Rundell (Purdue)10
Lucas Davison (Northwestern)10
Colin Valdiviez (Northwestern)9.5
Robbie Howard (Penn State)9.5
Christian Lance (Nebraska)9
Kaleb Romero (Ohio State)9
Kanen Storr (Michigan)9
Parker Filius (Purdue)9
Kyle Burwick (Wisconsin)8.5
Michael DeAugustino (Northwestern)8.5
Trent Hillger (Wisconsin)8.5
Jake Allar (Minnesota)8
Layne Malczewski (Michigan State)8
Michael Beard (Penn State)8
Patrick McKee (Minnesota)8
Tate Orndorff (Ohio State)8
Dylan Duncan (Illinois)7.5
Graham Rooks (Indiana)7.5
Caleb Licking (Nebraska)7
Luke Luffman (Illinois)6.5
Thomas Penola (Purdue)6.5
David Ferrante (Northwestern)6
Drew Hughes (Michigan State)6
Joe Lee (Penn State)6
Jordan Hamdan (Michigan State)6
Dylan Ragusin (Michigan)5.5
Griffin Parriott (Purdue)5.5
Max Lyon (Purdue)5.5
Owen Webster (Minnesota)5.5
Boo Dryden (Minnesota)4.5
Will Lewan (Michigan)4.5
Yahya Thomas (Northwestern)4.5
Billy Janzer (Rutgers)4
Drew Mattin (Michigan)4
Tucker Sjomeling (Nebraska)3
Beau Bartlett (Penn State)2.5
Garrett Jowles (Minnesota)2.5
Jack Medley (Michigan)2.5
Rudy Streck (Indiana)2.5
Jackson Turley (Rutgers)2
Johnny Mologousis (Illinois)2
Jaden Bullock (Michigan)1.5
Andrew Sparks (Minnesota)1
Cayden Rooks (Indiana)1
Dylan DMilio (Ohio State)1
Dylan Shawver (Rutgers)1
Elijah Cleary (Ohio State)1
Eric Barnett (Wisconsin)1
Gavin Hoffman (Ohio State)1
Jared Krattiger (Wisconsin)1
Jonathan Spadafora (Maryland)1
Kyle Luigs (Indiana)1
Peyton Omania (Michigan State)1
Christian Colucci (Rutgers)0.5
DJ Shannon (Illinois)0.5
Drew Scharenbrock (Wisconsin)0.5
Emil Soehnlen (Purdue)0.5
Jaron Smith (Maryland)0.5
Kyle Cochran (Maryland)0.5
Marcos Polanco (Minnesota)0.5
 
Snyder lost to Adam Coon his senior year. Steveson would beat him without issue. Wouldn’t be able to overcome the size difference with someone as good as Gable. I don’t care for the guy either but he is damn good.
Using Coon as your barometer is a bit misguided. That guy is a completely different kind of freak of nature.
While I think Steveson could beat Coon in his prime, it would be close. The big man would easily have 50lbs of muscle on him. GS wouldn't be able to over power him and would have to rely on speed alone.

Coon is probably a bit too big for his own good.

FWIW- I'd take Snyder over GS every time.
 
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Snyder lost to Adam Coon his senior year. Steveson would beat him without issue. Wouldn’t be able to overcome the size difference with someone as good as Gable. I don’t care for the guy either but he is damn good.
You think Gable would beat Snyder?
The two time World and Olympic champ that beat Sadulaev?? Gable would beat him without issue?
Sorry if I'm being a jerk but.
Lol lol lol lol
 
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Using Coon as your barometer is a bit misguided. That guy is a completely different kind of freak of nature.
While I think Steveson could beat Coon in his prime, it would be close. The big man would easily have 50lbs of muscle on him. GS wouldn't be able to over power him and would have to rely on speed alone.

Coon is probably a bit too big for his own good.

FWIW- I'd take Snyder over GS every time.
I don’t know about that. Gable is a beast!!! Slimmed down and got better. Seems to me that the guys that moved to psu have gotten worse.
 
I don’t know about that. Gable is a beast!!! Slimmed down and got better
Wth, you guys think Gable would beat Snyder?
Snyder would make Gable look like a school boy right now.
You understand you are talking about a two time world and an Olympic champion that beat Sadulaev?
 
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Just watched Fix in the B12 finals. Here is everything you need to know about expectations in the wrestling world: Fix just beat an unseeded guy 6-1 in the finals, gets rode like a pony in the third and the wrestling world/internet barely notices. It takes Spencer Lee until the third to TF a guy and everybody is wondering what's up. That my friends, is excellence.
 
2021 Big Ten Championships
Points Per Individual
Spencer Lee (Iowa)24
Gable Steveson (Minnesota)23.5
Jaydin Eierman (Iowa)21
Michael Kemmerer (Iowa)21
Ryan Deakin (Northwestern)21
Aaron Brooks (Penn State)20
Sammy Sasso (Ohio State)20
Alex Marinelli (Iowa)19
Myles Amine (Michigan)19
Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State)19
Tony Cassioppi (Iowa)18.5
Mason Parris (Michigan)18
Carter Starocci (Penn State)17
Taylor Venz (Nebraska)17
John Poznanski (Rutgers)16.5
Nick Lee (Penn State)16.5
Devin Schroder (Purdue)16
Ethan Smith (Ohio State)16
Sebastian Rivera (Rutgers)16
Chase Saldate (Michigan State)15.5
Lucas Byrd (Illinois)15.5
Austin DeSanto (Iowa)15
Eric Schultz (Nebraska)15
Kaleb Young (Iowa)15
Rayvon Foley (Michigan State)15
Ridge Lovett (Nebraska)15
Chad Red (Nebraska)14.5
Chris Cannon (Northwestern)14.5
Greg Kerkvliet (Penn State)14.5
Jacob Warner (Iowa)14.5
Cameron Amine (Michigan)13.5
Malik Heinselman (Ohio State)13.5
Brayton Lee (Minnesota)12.5
Logan Massa (Michigan)12.5
Mikey Labriola (Nebraska)12.5
Kendall Coleman (Purdue)12
Mike VanBrill (Rutgers)12
Cameron Caffey (Michigan State)11.5
Michael Blockhus (Minnesota)11.5
Nelson Brands (Iowa)11.5
Peyton Robb (Nebraska)11.5
Brady Berge (Penn State)11
Christopher Weiler (Wisconsin)11
Gerrit Nijenhuis (Purdue)11
Jake Tucker (Michigan State)10.5
Donnell Washington (Indiana)10
Jacob Rundell (Purdue)10
Lucas Davison (Northwestern)10
Colin Valdiviez (Northwestern)9.5
Robbie Howard (Penn State)9.5
Christian Lance (Nebraska)9
Kaleb Romero (Ohio State)9
Kanen Storr (Michigan)9
Parker Filius (Purdue)9
Kyle Burwick (Wisconsin)8.5
Michael DeAugustino (Northwestern)8.5
Trent Hillger (Wisconsin)8.5
Jake Allar (Minnesota)8
Layne Malczewski (Michigan State)8
Michael Beard (Penn State)8
Patrick McKee (Minnesota)8
Tate Orndorff (Ohio State)8
Dylan Duncan (Illinois)7.5
Graham Rooks (Indiana)7.5
Caleb Licking (Nebraska)7
Luke Luffman (Illinois)6.5
Thomas Penola (Purdue)6.5
David Ferrante (Northwestern)6
Drew Hughes (Michigan State)6
Joe Lee (Penn State)6
Jordan Hamdan (Michigan State)6
Dylan Ragusin (Michigan)5.5
Griffin Parriott (Purdue)5.5
Max Lyon (Purdue)5.5
Owen Webster (Minnesota)5.5
Boo Dryden (Minnesota)4.5
Will Lewan (Michigan)4.5
Yahya Thomas (Northwestern)4.5
Billy Janzer (Rutgers)4
Drew Mattin (Michigan)4
Tucker Sjomeling (Nebraska)3
Beau Bartlett (Penn State)2.5
Garrett Jowles (Minnesota)2.5
Jack Medley (Michigan)2.5
Rudy Streck (Indiana)2.5
Jackson Turley (Rutgers)2
Johnny Mologousis (Illinois)2
Jaden Bullock (Michigan)1.5
Andrew Sparks (Minnesota)1
Cayden Rooks (Indiana)1
Dylan DMilio (Ohio State)1
Dylan Shawver (Rutgers)1
Elijah Cleary (Ohio State)1
Eric Barnett (Wisconsin)1
Gavin Hoffman (Ohio State)1
Jared Krattiger (Wisconsin)1
Jonathan Spadafora (Maryland)1
Kyle Luigs (Indiana)1
Peyton Omania (Michigan State)1
Christian Colucci (Rutgers)0.5
DJ Shannon (Illinois)0.5
Drew Scharenbrock (Wisconsin)0.5
Emil Soehnlen (Purdue)0.5
Jaron Smith (Maryland)0.5
Kyle Cochran (Maryland)0.5
Marcos Polanco (Minnesota)0.5

Cassioppi 18.5
Paris 18
🙂
 
Using Coon as your barometer is a bit misguided. That guy is a completely different kind of freak of nature.
While I think Steveson could beat Coon in his prime, it would be close. The big man would easily have 50lbs of muscle on him. GS wouldn't be able to over power him and would have to rely on speed alone.

Coon is probably a bit too big for his own good.

FWIW- I'd take Snyder over GS every time.
Coon beat Snyder in 2018. Steveson beat Coon in 2019 in Freestyle. What do you mean in his prime?
 
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