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Google it. I'm sure you're capable here.Link to abortion recipes?
Well it’s not written anywhere, what else would it be?After all I laid out you took in mind reading. Cool.
Obvious.Well it’s not written anywhere, what else would it be?
Well it’s not written anywhere, what else would it be?
It's amazing you fail to see that the main influence to overturn Roe was Christianity and that you believe SCOTUS would actually put that in their opinion.Lol okay then.
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Why wouldn’t they try to ban abortions then? The same way they legalized them 50 years ago.It's amazing you fail to see that the main influence to overturn Roe was Christianity and that you believe SCOTUS would actually put that in their opinion.
That is just what you choose to see. Was RBG motivated by Christianity when she said roe was bad law and would likely be overturned?It's amazing you fail to see that the main influence to overturn Roe was Christianity and that you believe SCOTUS would actually put that in their opinion.
Look, those guys are too smart to state outright that they are overturning Roe because of religion. But since nearly all objections to abortion are ultimately based in religion, and given what we know about the religious background of the justices in question, it's not hard to see what drove this stripping away of women's rights.So nice you had to say it twice. Feel free to show me where religion was in the opinions, you sharp little guy!
Link to abortion recipes?
No more crispy fetal nuggets at KFC?
Perhaps you could say it is the judeo-Christian values of the west that have influence. When you consider abortion as murder, you don’t have to have religion as a factor telling you it’s wrong. Unless all the atheists I see saying they don’t need religion to know right from wrong aren’t being honest. When do you feel a person should be granted the right to life? When they are born?Look, those guys are too smart to state outright that they are overturning Roe because of religion. But since nearly all objections to abortion are ultimately based in religion, and given what we know about the religious background of the justices in question, it's not hard to see what drove this stripping away of women's rights.
Farrell said the book was immensely popular, and she did not find any evidence of objections to the inclusion of the section.
So does this beg the question that they were well aware of abortions, maybe even supported them, but didn’t put it in the constitution? Why wouldn’t they do that?
It's amazing you think that only Democrats are against the removal of Roe v. Wade.That is just what you choose to see. Was RBG motivated by Christianity when she said roe was bad law and would likely be overturned?
The fact is the democrats we're too busy using the issue to rile their base for the last fifty years to codify it. Shame on them if anyone. They wanted the controversy and they are absolutely loving this right now because they get to use it as a wedge issue
Democrats could have a federal abortion law put together by this time next week. It might fail but they could absolutely push it to a vote or force the Republicans to filibuster it. They won't though because like the last 50 years they like what is happening. They love what is happening. It will be a cash cow and a issue to run against for the midterms. They might even be able to push it to the next presidential election and likely will try. They love that they can now push this narrative in all states and use it as a fundraiser and voting wedge in the state elections as well.
Truth is neither side wants this solved reasonably because it has been and will continue to be a fundraiser and a voting wedge for both parties.
The people should rally around this and come to a reasonable abortion standard. I think Europe actually has this one figured out. The sad part about roe is we likely would already have a reasonable abortion standard similar to Europe's if it were not for the supreme court intervening 50 years ago.
Is murder a religious issue?With regards to the SCOTUS ruling? No, it’s not. I don’t think there even needs to be a religious angle at the state level either. Science says life begins at conception, which would make abortion murder. You don’t need to have religion to feel that should be illegal.
So does this beg the question that they were well aware of abortions, maybe even supported them, but didn’t put it in the constitution? Why wouldn’t they do that?
I don't but if we were to pick where most against it being overturned they would live in the democratic party. Remember when all the pull string democrats on this site started blaming trump and republicans? I remember.It's amazing you think that only Democrats are against the removal of Roe v. Wade.
That doesn't make it wrong. It just makes it hard for simple-minded bigots to follow and easy for religious and political frauds to capitalize on.The rebuttal would be that “guns are a right protected by the constitution,” you can’t say the same thing for abortion, the “right” to abortion was an extrapolation of an extrapolation.
Agreed. I would say that Democrats are typically pro-choice. I just think this is going to backfire on the Republicans. I am not sure why you brought Trump into this?I don't but if we were to pick where most against it being overturned they would live in the democratic party. Remember when all the pull string democrats on this site started blaming trump and republicans? I remember.
Unless of course you believe all Democrats believe in abortion?
And the practical result of that will be what?Perhaps you could say it is the judeo-Christian values of the west that have influence. When you consider abortion as murder, you don’t have to have religion as a factor telling you it’s wrong. Unless all the atheists I see saying they don’t need religion to know right from wrong aren’t being honest. When do you feel a person should be granted the right to life? When they are born?
I’ll say it again, they didn’t rule abortion to be illegal. The gave it back to the states.
Is it not an issue of the law?Is murder a religious issue?
Because many on the left are blaming him for this.Agreed. I would say that Democrats are typically pro-choice. I just think this is going to backfire on the Republicans. I am not sure why you brought Trump into this?
It's a weird thing. It's like the founders put the intent right in the name of the countryYep, frankly I’ve realized many people in this country just stink. I’m ready to give up on the whole United States thing, embrace “states rights” and move to a place I agree with
No. I think most are blaming the influence of Evangelicals on the Republican Party.Because many on the left are blaming him for this.
Unless I missed there are no mentions of any medical procedures or treatments in the constitution.So does this beg the question that they were well aware of abortions, maybe even supported them, but didn’t put it in the constitution? Why wouldn’t they do that?
Probably because they never believed the government would get involved in personal health choices. There are lots of things that aren't spelled out in the constitution. They laid out ideals that could be applied to most situations.So does this beg the question that they were well aware of abortions, maybe even supported them, but didn’t put it in the constitution? Why wouldn’t they do that?
No. I think most are blaming the influence of Evangelicals on the Republican Party.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the right to travel isn't protected in the constitution, either.The rebuttal would be that “guns are a right protected by the constitution,” you can’t say the same thing for abortion, the “right” to abortion was an extrapolation of an extrapolation.
Evangelicals along with the plutocrats and corporations who are delighted to pay to inflame issues like abortion to keep the party of corporate power and lower taxes strong enough to protect their entrenched privilege.No. I think most are blaming the influence of Evangelicals on the Republican Party.
They've wanted to ban abortion for 50 years but they didn't have the proper Christian firepower on the supreme court.Why wouldn’t they try to ban abortions then? The same way they legalized them 50 years ago.
Again, I’m going to point you to all the legal opinions that said it was fallible and ripe to be overturned.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the right to travel isn't protected in the constitution, either.
Sure, you might extrapolate that right from the Commerce clause. But apparently extrapolation isn't legitimate. And even if it was, that would only allow business travel.
Or you might extrapolate it from the right to assemble in 1A. But, again, you don't like extrapolation.
I’ve read it, plenty of text is out there for how the 9th doesn’t make the argument.Still haven’t read the 9th Amendment yet?
Show me where the words marriage or women are in the Constitution.
Where is Christianity in any opinions?They've wanted to ban abortion for 50 years but they didn't have the proper Christian firepower on the supreme court.
I know full well Roe was ripe, RBG made that clear.
Now the state supreme court's can use Christianity in their opinions too.
RGB didn't say Roe was a bad law, she didn't like it because it left women's rights open for attack.That is just what you choose to see. Was RBG motivated by Christianity when she said roe was bad law and would likely be overturned?
The fact is the democrats we're too busy using the issue to rile their base for the last fifty years to codify it. Shame on them if anyone. They wanted the controversy and they are absolutely loving this right now because they get to use it as a wedge issue
Democrats could have a federal abortion law put together by this time next week. It might fail but they could absolutely push it to a vote or force the Republicans to filibuster it. They won't though because like the last 50 years they like what is happening. They love what is happening. It will be a cash cow and a issue to run against for the midterms. They might even be able to push it to the next presidential election and likely will try. They love that they can now push this narrative in all states and use it as a fundraiser and voting wedge in the state elections as well.
Truth is neither side wants this solved reasonably because it has been and will continue to be a fundraiser and a voting wedge for both parties.
The people should rally around this and come to a reasonable abortion standard. I think Europe actually has this one figured out. The sad part about roe is we likely would already have a reasonable abortion standard similar to Europe's if it were not for the supreme court intervening 50 years ago.
The SCOTUS isn’t there to ban anything. The constitution is meant to limit power of the government. They function on the basis of decisions through the lens of the constitution.Unless I missed there are no mentions of any medical procedures or treatments in the constitution.
Why would there be?
Are you suggesting that their failure to mention medical care means they somehow thought banning medical care was OK?
So . . . if the new standard is that whatever isn't specifically protected by name in the constitution can be banned, what other medical care would you like to see states be able to ban?
I’ve read it, plenty of text is out there for how the 9th doesn’t make the argument.
In terms of marriage, 10th amendment.
Perhaps lead a push to explicitly put the word woman where you want it to be.
@ICHerky uses emojis all the time - the right wing opinion media stole his ability to use facts.You're saying abortion isn't a religious issue? Please.