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They are the rules, whether or not they are enforced is the issue

The original NCAA rule on NIL is that a recruit couldn't talk turkey with a collective until after they signed a LOI which pretty much amounted to a "Trust me bro" system that didn't make sense. It gave the colleges all the bargaining power. A judge ruled against the NCAA and the case had to go back to court leaving any rules up in the air. Now it's like the wild west. Boosters and collectives can contact rostered athletes whether in the portal or not. Additionally, the NCAA got rid of the Letter of Intent program in favor of contracts.

The coaches on staff still have to adhere to the same contact rules.

Now I like seeing wrestlers get paid but one has to wonder if this will be beneficial for men's college wrestling in the future. I don't know that it will.


 
Nobody is ok with this rather feel we are going down the right path with recruiting currently. Personally I feel kicking the tires is not worth the potential harm. Given the history and the failed attempt last year just move on. The effort is better spent recruiting elsewhere. Everyone that wants to entertain it acts like there is no downside.
I don't know about anyone else but I absolutely know there could be a large downside.
 
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Do we bring in AJ for a year or go after a guy like Stephen Little from Ark Little Rock for 2 years while Ludington gets his young legs under him?
Ludington would have the opportunity his second year to beat out Little if we go that route. We should probably talk to Angelo and see if not bringing AJ back for a year is going to bother him or not. I don't know if AJ would be worth th
Unless an athlete is in the portal he can’t get on it…
or "go after" them...
 
The "War is NOT over" boys!!!! Matter of fact, I believe it is just starting. Talks of the great Krailure bringing in Ono, now Taylor also bringing in a JAP????

It is NO HOLDS BARRED my friends!!! I am NOT getting what you all are missing??? IOWA didn't start this "war", that was some FAT$$$Man in NOT so happy low lying shEEEEt hole!!! Does NOT matter how you all want to TWIST it!?!?!?!?

They used MONEY to out recruit EVERYONE else by 5,6, 10X and now with NIL and a runaway train of wins, it becomes that much harder to TAKE EM OUT!!!!

EVERY other team has to look at EVERYTHING possible to build a team that will overtake these lying. cheating sacks O SheeeeT!!! Currently, NOTHING less then TEN HAMMERS will get it done.

CERTAINLY taking a shot at AJ would be a risk!!! Taking DeSanto was a risk TWOOOO and there was others. Some work, some don't!!! Once again, IF there was a path forward that had reasonable expectations that it would work and BENEFIT IOWA WRESTLING??? Then by all means, take a shot!!!

Nothing like a racial slur to show your true colors. Sheesh
 
Nothing like a racial slur to show your true colors. Sheesh
I would say a borderline slur. It all depends on the intent. In this case, it is in admiration to their wrestling abilities and how desirable that would be to Iowa. Here is from wiki -

Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". In some places, it is simply a contraction of the word and does not carry negative connotations,[citation needed] whereas in some other contexts it can be considered a slur.
 
Nothing like a racial slur to show your true colors. Sheesh

Ever hear of a JAP DOUBLE???? How about a JAP WHIZZER???

LOL, the GREATEST GENERATION refer to people like you as panty waists!!! They would also say, "do you squat to pee?" I guess to a coward like yourself, these are somehow racist TWOOOOO????

Lets see some YELLOW belly such as yourself, post something about what has taken place right here in AMERICA!!! A real lot of VILE stuff took place and I bet you didn't say a F-in word!!!! I also bet 100% you didn't defend the women and young ladies who were under attack!

You are a soft pathetic person and a real problem to the country if you want to speak the truth!!! You can SEE BELLOW- that is correct. You may try and twist it, but it does not matter!!!

I would say a borderline slur. It all depends on the intent. In this case, it is in admiration to their wrestling abilities and how desirable that would be to Iowa. Here is from wiki -

Jap is an English abbreviation of the word "Japanese". In some places, it is simply a contraction of the word and does not carry negative connotations,[citation needed] whereas in some other contexts it can be considered a slur.
YES TY
 
Ever hear of a JAP DOUBLE???? How about a JAP WHIZZER???

LOL, the GREATEST GENERATION refer to people like you as panty waists!!! They would also say, "do you squat to pee?" I guess to a coward like yourself, these are somehow racist TWOOOOO????

Lets see some YELLOW belly such as yourself, post something about what has taken place right here in AMERICA!!! A real lot of VILE stuff took place and I bet you didn't say a F-in word!!!! I also bet 100% you didn't defend the women and young ladies who were under attack!

You are a soft pathetic person and a real problem to the country if you want to speak the truth!!! You can SEE BELLOW- that is correct. You may try and twist it, but it does not matter!!!

I feel really sorry for you.
 
It's not a pot shot at the Iowa program. The program correctly identified which brother is worth keeping and kicked the others to the curb. It's a pot shot at the short sighted fans who are still somehow trying to defend the cluster B brothers and bring the others back.
Yeah I don’t get it. I’m on record at the time saying I didn’t agree with bringing AJF aboard, but also I felt TnT deserved the benefit of the doubt due to their track record with these situations. It didn’t work out (which is fine) so to me, we close the book and move on.
 
I feel really sorry for you.
I do NOT feel sorry for you!!! You get what you deserve/earn and you obviously don't get shEEEEt !!!!!
I was going to comment at the time that I thought Bird was older than dirt which would explain his word choice. Not defending by any means, just explaining. Then he comes out with that masterpiece….lol
NOT sure what you are trying to say? Please elaborate and explain to us ALL!?!?!?
 
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Yeah I don’t get it. I’m on record at the time saying I didn’t agree with bringing AJF aboard, but also I felt TnT deserved the benefit of the doubt due to their track record with these situations. It didn’t work out (which is fine) so to me, we close the book and move on.
This is really the important part. Kudos for TnT for bringing him in in the first place and giving it a shot. Everyone would not have (did not) do that. They did, they tried to add a National Champ to the line up. They gave him rope, which he hung himself by. Then, they wisely moved on. Kudos for moving on, kudos for trying. When you have a break up with that girl of your dreams, it never works to get back together. Never. Let her find someone else.
 
Another issue stemming from the "internet" and social media. We live in a panty-waist society. Almost any word you use will trigger someone. Everyone ignores intent and context to race to be offended. Damn near EVERY word can be a "slur" depending on intent and context. Add in whether or not you dislike the source and you are just salivating at the opportunity to blow something out of proportion.

If he were bragging about his grandfather killing a bunch of "japs" in WWII or a relative putting "japs" in internment camps. Yes, be offended. How he used it here, makes you look like a "panty-waist" racing to faux "feel sorry" for him...
 
Ever hear of a JAP DOUBLE???? How about a JAP WHIZZER???

LOL, the GREATEST GENERATION refer to people like you as panty waists!!! They would also say, "do you squat to pee?" I guess to a coward like yourself, these are somehow racist TWOOOOO????

Lets see some YELLOW belly such as yourself, post something about what has taken place right here in AMERICA!!! A real lot of VILE stuff took place and I bet you didn't say a F-in word!!!! I also bet 100% you didn't defend the women and young ladies who were under attack!

You are a soft pathetic person and a real problem to the country if you want to speak the truth!!! You can SEE BELLOW- that is correct. You may try and twist it, but it does not matter!!!


YES TY
Was it you who was complaining about your son losing at a tournament and they then decided they didn't have enough time for WBs and you were so upset? If so who's the real PANTY WAIST.

No sure if you're trying to be the 2025 version of Kentucky Mudflap or you're just being annoying
 
Was it you who was complaining about your son losing at a tournament and they then decided they didn't have enough time for WBs and you were so upset? If so who's the real PANTY WAIST.

No sure if you're trying to be the 2025 version of Kentucky Mudflap or you're just being annoying
You need to remove yourself from this page and really EVERYTHING to do with wrestling!!! I was not upset, I was down right pissed off at what took place in that POS tournament!!! Was NOT only about my kid, was about every kid who got screwed. Problem was, there were people such as you running it!

Maybe you never actually wrestled??? Guessing you never competed in anything worthwhile!?!?!? That being said, EVERYTHING you compete in, MUST have RULES!!! The asshats screwed up royally and no one I spoke with ever heard of anything like it!!!

See the HUGE difference between MEN and PANTY WAISTS like you are, MEN will stand up for what is right regardless of the situation, For example, I do not want to see LADIES taken advantage of, abused, hurt in anyway!!!! I do not have a daughter, but I will go out of my way to defend women's sports. I do not even like many of the sports, but I will stand up for them to compete FAIRLY!!!

I challenged you and MANY wussies like you to stand up for the positions you supposable support. For example, here, you started this BS because your panties got in a bundle OVER WORDS!!! Words that have CLEARLY been proven NOT to be racist as you falsely claimed. BUT if you are so high on the hawg about these things???? Lets hear you speak out about the REAL racist events taking place!!!

You will NOT because you are a worthless sack-o-SHeeeeeT!!!

AND don't ever mention MUDFLAP again!!!! People like you would make him PUKE!!!
 
You need to remove yourself from this page and really EVERYTHING to do with wrestling!!! I was not upset, I was down right pissed off at what took place in that POS tournament!!! Was NOT only about my kid, was about every kid who got screwed. Problem was, there were people such as you running it!

Maybe you never actually wrestled??? Guessing you never competed in anything worthwhile!?!?!? That being said, EVERYTHING you compete in, MUST have RULES!!! The asshats screwed up royally and no one I spoke with ever heard of anything like it!!!

See the HUGE difference between MEN and PANTY WAISTS like you are, MEN will stand up for what is right regardless of the situation, For example, I do not want to see LADIES taken advantage of, abused, hurt in anyway!!!! I do not have a daughter, but I will go out of my way to defend women's sports. I do not even like many of the sports, but I will stand up for them to compete FAIRLY!!!

I challenged you and MANY wussies like you to stand up for the positions you supposable support. For example, here, you started this BS because your panties got in a bundle OVER WORDS!!! Words that have CLEARLY been proven NOT to be racist as you falsely claimed. BUT if you are so high on the hawg about these things???? Lets hear you speak out about the REAL racist events taking place!!!

You will NOT because you are a worthless sack-o-SHeeeeeT!!!

AND don't ever mention MUDFLAP again!!!! People like you would make him PUKE!!!
Many here know who I am and I have been around long enough to know that you don't know shit. I did wrestle for 14 years. You call people names yet you pout over little Johnny losing and then not getting more matches. Winners Win. FYI when I was wrestling at the state tournament in IL it was single elimination and if your guy didn't make the finals you didn't get to WB. Tell little Johnny to be tougher than dad and not lose
 
Many here know who I am and I have been around long enough to know that you don't know shit. I did wrestle for 14 years. You call people names yet you pout over little Johnny losing and then not getting more matches. Winners Win. FYI when I was wrestling at the state tournament in IL it was single elimination and if your guy didn't make the finals you didn't get to WB. Tell little Johnny to be tougher than dad and not lose
I like a lot of what you say on here, but this is a ridiculous stance. Are you a parent? If something was done, against the rules, that hurts your child unfairly, of course you complain about it. Now, that doesn't mean you don't use it as a teaching point to show them that life IS unfair.

But, it is YOUR JOB to fight for your kid. Hopefully, you do everything you can to get them to a point that you don't need to, but, if a situation happens, you bleed for them more than you would for yourself....

With that said, there are many openings Ironbird leaves to insert knives into, choose something better!
 
Another issue stemming from the "internet" and social media. We live in a panty-waist society. Almost any word you use will trigger someone. Everyone ignores intent and context to race to be offended. Damn near EVERY word can be a "slur" depending on intent and context. Add in whether or not you dislike the source and you are just salivating at the opportunity to blow something out of proportion.

If he were bragging about his grandfather killing a bunch of "japs" in WWII or a relative putting "japs" in internment camps. Yes, be offended. How he used it here, makes you look like a "panty-waist" racing to faux "feel sorry" for him...

There is never an appropriate time to use a term that someone, even one person, would consider offensive - whether it is to someone's face, internet or social media. It is just plain wrong and there is no place for it, ever.

If you don't realize that, I feel sorry for you as well.

This will be my last post on this particular matter. Strive to do better.
 
There is never an appropriate time to use a term that someone, even one person, would consider offensive - whether it is to someone's face, internet or social media. It is just plain wrong and there is no place for it, ever.

If you don't realize that, I feel sorry for you as well.

This will be my last post on this particular matter. Strive to do better.
LMFAO. Then, like I said above, NO ONE can really say ANYTHING. Because, I can guarantee that "even one person" would find every word any of us say offensive!! Again, intent and context matter!!!

Please save your energy feeling sorry for me and use it for something much more constructive. You are wasting it when it could be put to much better use!!
 
I like a lot of what you say on here, but this is a ridiculous stance. Are you a parent? If something was done, against the rules, that hurts your child unfairly, of course you complain about it. Now, that doesn't mean you don't use it as a teaching point to show them that life IS unfair.

But, it is YOUR JOB to fight for your kid. Hopefully, you do everything you can to get them to a point that you don't need to, but, if a situation happens, you bleed for them more than you would for yourself....

With that said, there are many openings Ironbird leaves to insert knives into, choose something better!
I agree fight for your kid. But he said it was about other kids not his. And he calls people names and then pouts himself that's all. Just giving him some shit back since all he does is do that to others
 
I agree fight for your kid. But he said it was about other kids not his. And he calls people names and then pouts himself that's all. Just giving him some shit back since all he does is do that to others
I am not saying he isn't deserving. I just wanted to point out there are much better avenues to use than the one you chose!
 
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He’s just saying you don’t know any better because the times changed but your words didn’t.
OH GOD!!! Lets just say el dub here decides he is a horse. He wants to be called el pony, that is fine in his world!!! It does not mean I or anyone else has to play that game!!!
Many here know who I am and I have been around long enough to know that you don't know shit. I did wrestle for 14 years. You call people names yet you pout over little Johnny losing and then not getting more matches. Winners Win. FYI when I was wrestling at the state tournament in IL it was single elimination and if your guy didn't make the finals you didn't get to WB. Tell little Johnny to be tougher than dad and not lose
1) I would LOVE to show you just how TUFF I am!!! 2) My guess is you are lying about competing 3) YES, a SINGLE elimination tournament is DIFFERENT from a double!!! For example, the NCAAs are coming up. If someone gets knocked to the backside, wins a match, then is told, your tournament is over. I guess your stance is, that is OK???

They gave placements out as they wished you jack ass!!! I would expect ALL who have wrestled to fully understand this.
There is never an appropriate time to use a term that someone, even one person, would consider offensive - whether it is to someone's face, internet or social media. It is just plain wrong and there is no place for it, ever.

If you don't realize that, I feel sorry for you as well.

This will be my last post on this particular matter. Strive to do better.
As was pointed out, just because you or some other PANTY WAIST feels offended, does not mean it is wrong! They were remove/have removed names on PANCAKE MIX!!! Team names under attack, a MILITARY BASE name was changed and thankfully now, it was CHANGED BACK because of REAL AMERICANS!!!!

I agree fight for your kid. But he said it was about other kids not his. And he calls people names and then pouts himself that's all. Just giving him some shit back since all he does is do that to others
Listen you are not only a wussie, but pretty stupid TWOOOOO!!!! For me personally it was about my kid, but it was about others, and MOSTLY about what is RIGHT!!! I spoke to the horses ass coach holding the tournament. The conversation started because they ran out of food. A lady running the food table asked me if they should order more pizzas and stuff. I told here absolutely because we are in for a
L O N G day!!!!

Well she brought me offer the the horses ass who said, we are on schedule to be done in around 2-3 hours!??!!? This is when I explained to him he did not have a F-in clue!!!! Once the POS realized I was correct, his solution was to just SCREW mostly everyone wrestling on the backside. It is not really hard to understand, there should have been other ways put in place. Even if you had to wrestle a 2-1-1 for example? Hold a 2nd day, or just run the tournament longer.

ALL would have been a more reasonable solution! TRY to STAND for something in your sorry ass life would you!!!
 
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OH GOD!!! Lets just say el dub here decides he is a horse. He wants to be called el pony, that is fine in his world!!! It does not mean I or anyone else has to play that game!!!

1) I would LOVE to show you just how TUFF I am!!! 2) My guess is you are lying about competing 3) YES, a SINGLE elimination tournament is DIFFERENT from a double!!! For example, the NCAAs are coming up. If someone gets knocked to the backside, wins a match, then is told, your tournament is over. I guess your stance is, that is OK???

They gave placements out as they wished you jack ass!!! I would expect ALL who have wrestled to fully understand this.

As was pointed out, just because you or some other PANTY WAIST feels offended, does not mean it is wrong! They were remove/have removed names on PANCAKE MIX!!! Team names under attack, a MILITARY BASE name was changed and thankfully now, it was CHANGED BACK because of REAL AMERICANS!!!!


Listen you are not only a wussie, but pretty stupid TWOOOOO!!!! For me personally it was about my kid, but it was about others, and MOSTLY about what is RIGHT!!! I spoke to the horses ass coach holding the tournament. The conversation started because they ran out of food. A lady running the food table asked me if they should order more pizzas and stuff. I told here absolutely because we are in for a
L O N G day!!!!

Well she brought me offer the the horses ass who said, we are on schedule to be done in around 2-3 hours!??!!? This is when I explained to him he did not have a F-in clue!!!! Once the POS realized I was correct, his solution was to just SCREW mostly everyone wrestling on the backside. It is not really hard to understand, there should have been other ways put in place. Even if you had to wrestle a 2-1-1 for example? Hold a 2nd day, or just run the tournament longer.

ALL would have been a more reasonable solution! TRY to STAND for something in your sorry ass life would you!!!
I definitely competed in Sycamore IL. We were a top 10 team in the old IL AA with an enrollment of 780 kids. We stopped DeKalb steak of 26 straight years winning the regional. Think I was 35-6 119lbs as a SR something like that. I wouldn't lie about wrestling like @vhsalum 🤣
 
Many here know who I am and I have been around long enough to know that you don't know shit. I did wrestle for 14 years. You call people names yet you pout over little Johnny losing and then not getting more matches. Winners Win. FYI when I was wrestling at the state tournament in IL it was single elimination and if your guy didn't make the finals you didn't get to WB. Tell little Johnny to be tougher than dad and not lose
Anticipation Popcorn GIF
 
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I have never lied. LOL
Are you using "Slick Willy" logic here? "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!" Since fellatio doesn't count, did you once "hit a wrestling move" on an Iowa adjacent mat, so you can say you wrestled for Iowa? Or, was it one of your other personas(see movie Split) who said they wrestled for Iowa?

I actually really enjoyed Split, so I am hoping your answer is the latter!
 
Another issue stemming from the "internet" and social media. We live in a panty-waist society. Almost any word you use will trigger someone. Everyone ignores intent and context to race to be offended. Damn near EVERY word can be a "slur" depending on intent and context. Add in whether or not you dislike the source and you are just salivating at the opportunity to blow something out of proportion.

If he were bragging about his grandfather killing a bunch of "japs" in WWII or a relative putting "japs" in internment camps. Yes, be offended. How he used it here, makes you look like a "panty-waist" racing to faux "feel sorry" for him...
I can agree with this in principle. However, you (nor I) are the gate keeper on what another person can deem offensive. Guaratee you I could pencil a sentence in here that I find no big deal and it would turn you in to a "panty-waist". It's not hard to put more thought in to what we say/type to avoid leaving the door open to interpretation. We now live in a world filled with people who can't shut up and put little thought in (many don't even seem capable) before demonstrating diarrhea of the mouth/keyboard. Trying to be respectful or consider other's views/feelings is an asset, not a weakness. True for the 'snowflakes' on 'both sides' of these debates. "Think first" is a good motto to live by, but few seem capable these days. But we can all try harder.
 
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As was pointed out, just because you or some other PANTY WAIST feels offended, does not mean it is wrong! They were remove/have removed names on PANCAKE MIX!!! Team names under attack, a MILITARY BASE name was changed and thankfully now, it was CHANGED BACK because of REAL AMERICANS!!!!
Because "real Americans" love honoring traitors and losers? LMAO.
 
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OH GOD!!! Lets just say el dub here decides he is a horse. He wants to be called el pony, that is fine in his world!!! It does not mean I or anyone else has to play that game!!!
But wait, there’s more!

(Could I at least be a Japanese pony?)
 
I can agree with this in principle. However, you (nor I) are the gate keeper on what another person can deem offensive. Guaratee you I could pencil a sentence in here that I find no big deal and it would turn you in to a "panty-waist". It's not hard to put more thought in to what we say/type to avoid leaving the door open to interpretation. We now live in a world filled with people who can't shut up and put little thought in (many don't even seem capable) before demonstrating diarrhea of the mouth/keyboard. Trying to be respectful or consider other's views/feelings is an asset, not a weakness. True for the 'snowflakes' on 'both sides' of these debates. "Think first" is a good motto to live by, but few seem capable these days. But we can all try harder.
I DO get your logic and understand the "be the better person" philosophy. But, I also think this approach weakens us as a whole. People are going to say things we don't like to hear and I want it that way. I like free speech and WANT all to have that freedom. Without it, it is A LOT easier to take your freedoms away 1 by 1. This is especially true when the usage of the word isn't even intending to offend. As long as you aren't issuing death threats or things across a very similar line, you have the RIGHT to do so....I just think you are wasting time and energy getting offended when the person isn't even truly trying to offend.

Also, if you have paid any attention to me at all, "panty-waist" is about as far away from me as it can get. To get me mad you are going to have to say something so over the line, as to be offensive, to the point that even someone with teflon skin would get irritated and even then it probably wouldn't work! This is especially true if I know you are intentionally trying to do so!
 
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