This is the exact stat that I was thinking about given the pace and complementary nature of Iowa's offense. Without looking, do you know if this also has 1st downs and average yards per possession?I just stumbled upon a site that breaks down offensive stats from a number of different angles.
BCF Toys - 2021 Points Per Drive
www.bcftoys.com
It shows each team's rank on long, mid and short drives as well as a ton of other stats. If you just look at the overall offensive points per drive (to account for Iowa's fewer possessions than other teams) the rankings look like this since 2007 (that's as far back as it goes):
O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe Davis Davis Davis Davis Davis BF BF BF BF BF
For all you Brian Haters
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I think he's had good d-coordinators. If winning 58% of your conference games make you a HOF coach then he is. Those are facts.
Yeah PPD is a good indicator. Not perfect, but good. If Iowa is just top 50 there, it usually indicates they will have a good team. 2011 and 2010 offenses were good despite the records. Shows how much of an outlier getting 10 wins with an offense that bad last year was.I just stumbled upon a site that breaks down offensive stats from a number of different angles.
BCF Toys - 2021 Points Per Drive
It shows each team's rank on long, mid and short drives as well as a ton of other stats. If you just look at the overall offensive points per drive (to account for Iowa's fewer possessions than other teams) the rankings look like this since 2007 (that's as far back as it goes):
O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe Davis Davis Davis Davis Davis BF BF BF BF BF
No reason Iowa can’t have a good defense AND a good offense. It’s not either/or.
I can’t get over how Brian has us averaging as the 104th best offense in the country under his 5 year tenure.
This D with even a top-60 offense? I'll take it.so you won’t be satisfied with anything less than a NC
Not that I've seen yet, but it does show "available yards" which calculates the percentage of yards earned over the yards available (starting field position to the end zone).
BCF Toys - 2021 Available Yards Percentage
www.bcftoys.com
BF's offensive rankings are predictably worse in the "available yards" stat than the "points per possession" stat. This is likely due to the large amount of turnovers that the defense has been forcing in recent years, putting the offense in better field position. The defense wasn't forcing turnovers at the same rate during the Greg Davis years.
the country of bhutan doesn’t care about their GDP ranking, they only care about GNH. Iowa football is similar
10 - 2. You tell your wife to keep improving herself daily too I bet. Never good enough.
Better fire that head guy he only went 10 - 2. We set our goals like Nebraska.
Lot of Husker fans on here. Fire coaches with good records.
Currently he is not. The rules say so. Assuming a bowl game but not a B1G Championship game KF needs 9-4 to qualify.
With a B1G game he needs 10-4 to qualify, so no, he is definitely not a HOF coach currently.
You're wasting your breath, but 100% correct.
Any passionate and HONEST fan is just a fake hater
Imagine if we could field an avg offense with our elite defense and special teams? Idk how you can support Brian’s OC career and how you agree with Kirk keeping him at that position. I repeat, 104th avg over 5 years. Who else gets that long of a leash?
Well the honest answer is that Brian isn't going anywhere as long as Kirk is HC, regardless of how bad the offense looks. This was the deal that was cut when he hired his son. If you support Kirk, by extension you have to support Brian because they are a package deal. I can only assume that this recognition is what's behind Pistachio's schtick.
I can appreciate Kirk but also hate this horrible decision of keeping Brian. Anywhere else he would have been gone a could of years ago.
I agree somewhat, that said...go look at the ISU scores. If we get a FG(due to starting field position) and the offense only gains a couple yards should they get any credit for starting in FG range and ending in the same range. If they turn a 50yd FG into a 20yd one, sure. Get credit for 3 pts for gaining a few yards... not really.I think it's unfair to use any metric of total yard percentile ranking when discussing the Iowa offense. With the style of play we use (bend but dont break defense and slow methodical ball control offense) we are already at a big disadvantage compared to those that dont. It says nothing about efficiency. Look at Nebraska, always high in total yards between the 20s but cant win games. It's all about efficiency. Reminds me of Wisconsin basketball, slow methodical, plodding offense but is still very effective.
Points per possession/drive should be the biggest statistic that matters for us. It's the "complimentary football" that Kirk talks about repeatedly. I think almost every other stat can be thrown out the window (especially yards per game, passing/rushing/total etc.) We were not good at all last year (104th) and that is unacceptable. This absolutely needs to improve. At least our defense ranked 9th though!
BCF Toys - 2021 Points Per Drive
No matter how you compare the stats can be misleading either in a good or bad way.
Stumbled on? I posted it 40 post before yoursI just stumbled upon a site that breaks down offensive stats from a number of different angles.
BCF Toys - 2021 Points Per Drive
It shows each team's rank on long, mid and short drives as well as a ton of other stats. If you just look at the overall offensive points per drive (to account for Iowa's fewer possessions than other teams) the rankings look like this since 2007 (that's as far back as it goes):
O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe O'Keefe Davis Davis Davis Davis Davis BF BF BF BF BF
Great minds think alike for sure though
The neat thing about the link I mentioned shows points per possession based on starting position as well. Shows that we score more points per possession when we get the ball at our 20 vs at the 50... Interesting stat!
Doh!Stumbled on? I posted it 40 post before yours
As I posted earlier, pace is incredibly important. Imagine trying to compare Iowa's offense in basketball to Wisconsin just using total points. It would make no sense.
He's not making excuses for last year. I have yet to see anyone say our offense last year wasn't particularly poor. Nor have I seen anyone say it doesn't need to improve. Homer's point, I believe, is that Iowa is not likely to be a statistical leader, and particularly so in stats that aren't viewed from a per play and/or per possession perspective. Those at least normalize for our style of play.
Still, last year's O was abysmal, but they did suffer a lot of injuries. When you can't field enough linemen to scrimmage mid season, that does not bode well for the offense for any team.
Barring a bunch more O line attrition, I'm cautiously optimistic for this upcoming season.
Yep, 100%. It's either you love or hate, no middle ground. That whole accountability thing is lost on most anymore.You're wasting your breath, but 100% correct.
Any passionate and HONEST fan is just a fake hater
Sure it is, some tools on here tell me that the offense gets credit for all field goals. Doesn't matter where the possession starts or how many/few yards are gained.
While I agree with you in general you are wrong in this specific case. There is a small cadre of extremely vocal and demented posters that do hate KF, BF and anything associated with them. They obsessively post attacks on KF and BF. Not criticisms, personal attacks that range from juvenile and stupid snark to accusations of all manner of personal misconduct. They post it on virtually every football topic. They post it in probably most basketball threads. Certainly a lot of basketball threads.
Repeatedly, and often viciously attacking people goes way past criticism. Indeed, obsessively posting the same redundant attacks several times a day, every day is itself a manifestation of hatred. The desire to just beat up the same people day after day for years is pretty much the operational definition of hatred.
There is a point where criticism, even fair criticism, becomes abusive. I don't know what you do for a living so let's say you are a retail/household plumber. If I and say 10 other people went to FB and Yelp, every day for years, and said Jonesy is a shitty plumber, a complete incompetent that is trying to destroy your home plumbing and his #2 guy is so inept he shouldn't even get paid. Every day. For years, I never miss a chance to voice my criticism. After a point wouldn't you think I hated you? Not just pissed about the toilet you didn't fix but actually I see you as the problem.
Repeatedly, and often viciously attacking people goes way past criticism. Indeed, obsessively posting the same redundant attacks several times a day, every day is itself a manifestation of hatred. The desire to just beat up the same people day after day for years is pretty much the operational definition of hatred.
There is a point where criticism, even fair criticism, becomes abusive. I don't know what you do for a living so let's say you are a retail/household plumber. If I and say 10 other people went to FB and Yelp, every day for years, and said Jonesy is a shitty plumber, a complete incompetent that is trying to destroy your home plumbing and his #2 guy is so inept he shouldn't even get paid. Every day. For years, I never miss a chance to voice my criticism. After a point wouldn't you think I hated you? Not just pissed about the toilet you didn't fix but actually I see you as the problem.
That is what actual personal malice looks like. People can and do try to justify it and hell, some of these guys could probably pass a lie detector if asked are Iowa fans. But the constant repetition of the same attacks tells a very different and much more accurate story.
TL/DR. Which brings me to my next peeve. Can you ever make a salient point in less than 120 words? Maybe take to Twitter as a conditioning mechanism. 🤔
I'm sorry if my response was a vicious attack in your eyes.
If you can't handle certain posters then just ignore them and move on. Problem solved. The majority support KF. He makes over $5M a year and is rarely challenged by the local media. If his most vicious critics are some anonymous message board posters then I think he's going to be fine.
Lots of successful programs still fire coaches. Look at OSU they got rid of their old DC because their D was holding up their end of the deal.
I was going to say, 6 yards is a lot of credit. I would have gone 3.
I was going to suggest not running on 2nd down 90+% of the time last year.
We run on 2nd and 10 to set up 3rd and 8. Puts your quarterback in a great position. Do you not know anything?
Dang you're right. We probably run it on 2nd down 90% of the time to set up that 10% play action pass.
And our WRs are not the insanely athletic kind that could get those extra yards after catching (assuming they don’t drop it)
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