5th, 4th, 3rd, and 2nd at nationals. What have you two chumps done with your lives?
Eierman
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he has a nice double and fantastic throw by, just doesn’t work against guys like nick lee. Needs a good hi c and maybe an outside single... he is a very good wrestler who could still develop and that is scary!
He did best Nick Lee at BIG10'S & lost in OT in the finals. Yes, he needs to keep tweaking and getting better but I think acting like his style doesn't beat "elite" wrestlers is a bit disingenuous.
He's a helluva wrestler. I've been watching him since his freshman year in HS. It's so wild to me that he , apparently, refuses to make adjustments to beat the top end guys repeatedly.
Oh that's all he had to do to beat Nick Lee?? Just make an adjustment? What adjustment was he supposed to make after Big Tens coach? What did he "refuse" to do that cost him in the NCAA finals?
Top end guys are hard to beat repeatedly..........they're even hard to beat once. He's not a dominant, consensus #1. He's going to split matches with Lee, Yianni and the like. The win over Lee was close, to think the rematch was going to just go Eierman's way is silly. To say he can't beat Lee the next time around by assuming he cannot adjust to beat top end guys repeatedly is nonsense.
I'm not saying he can't. I'm saying he hasn't. It isn't nonsense if it's backed up by results. Take a dive into his results and tell me that's not the logical conclusion.
You got your butt hurt B1G there, bud. There are always adjustments that can be made. Haven't broken down the tape, because it isn't that important to me, but changes can be made week to week, even match to match. Are you new to this sport? That's how progress is made...adjustments.
Isn’t he 2-1 against Lee in college?
Yes and all 4 matches (including the freestyle one) were very different with each wrestler making obvious adjustments. Even in the finals, Eierman clearly made adjustments. He wrestled way more aggressively on his feet after riding Lee out at Big Tens, clearly thinking an early takedown wins the match.
I don't think you should count Yianni either. Eierman wrestled him closer in the losses than he did in the win. Yianni made a bad mistake and got cradled late to lose, but was on his way to a convincing victory.
Good point and refutes the "dID nOT MAke AdJUSTments" argument. I thought Eierman got out of his wheelhouse at NCAAs and was a good match plan by PSU which mirrored what the rest of their guys did. The thing about Eierman that WrestleEveryDay is overlooking is Eierman's home run capability in big matches and it weighs heavily on his opponents mentally. He is one of the few guys in college that has it. I think guys are going to only shoot on him on the edge of the mat where if they get in trouble, they can try to get OOB quickly. The only thing stopping him from being truly elite is having a one or two go-to leg attacks. His double works on some but he still looks hesitant when shooting.
I think he could be way better on his feet if he gets better at switching to a single off his double. He got there a couple times against Lee, but looked very uncomfortable trying to finish.
To beat Lee you better keep your legs clean and be in damn good shape. The match Eierman won he was in danger of going down 2 tds to none before hitting that incredible funk counter and ride out. Eierman faded some at bigs so I think they wanted to get ahead but he ended up fading more after not converting. I almost think he is better off making lee work use his counters and pot shot when it's there. Forcing offence vs lee is tough, he keeps great position and never stops coming. The ride out was great as it kept his offence on the bench.
I believe he is, but I'd put money that he won't beat Lee again. I'm not hoping for him to lose. I've seen enough evidence to believe he won't.
He’s 2-1 with an OT loss.. what evidence are you seeing that I am missing?
With Jaydin’s style that’s a peculiar take. Anything can happen in his matches.
Eierman starts out with a 1-0 lead in any match they wrestle. He lost in overtime. Not that I don't think Lee will or can win any future matchups, but super weird take since he literally beat him two weeks before their last match.
Sounds like Lee might go 149 so you may be correct. But let’s bet $50...if Eierman wrestles Lee 3 times next college season, Lee has to win them all. If they wrestle only once and Lee wins, you win the bet. They don’t hit at all? No bet. All proceeds to WFL.
I'll bet you $50 that Lee stays 141. Anyway, good on you for proposing the first wager for next season.
Gambling is a sin. (Bless you.)
Jim, I will come to Iowa City and buy you and Chief and wasdt21 a beverage of your choice.
Lee does not look large to me at 141. Eierman looks huge. I’m not so sure he wouldn’t be better suited up a weight. Although that might make a mess of our lineup.
You're on.
I hope I lose that bet. I don't want to see him lose...especially to PSU.
You better save this, because I'm sure I'll forget.
If I’m following the only way this bet is binding is they’d have to meet in championship round and then again in consis?
I'm not exactly sure. The way @IAChief32 worded it was 3 matches need to be wrestled. My original statement was that Eierman wouldn't beat Lee again.
Was exactly as stated...Eierman just needs to win a match. Now, if they don't wrestle at NCAAs, I owe $50.
Well mineo is about as reliable as they come and I’m not sure he’s ever been wrong on his insider info……
Damn. Healthy Hawkeye ACL’s are about as common these days as expressions of human emotion from Cael Sanderson.
No shit dudes a snake. I can’t believe anyone believed my statements on here regarding him. He’s a disgrace to the sport
A pair of shoes?
