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Sydney fouled out.. her last 3 foul calls were poor calls.
Feel bad for Mallegni.. she crushed it on the boards when she was in, but was panicky with the ball in her hands. Hopefully she’ll have more confidence next season!
I missed it too, but I DVR the games. After I watch it, I'll give a few takes. Sounds like a little of everything took place today.
She feasted on runout passing from CC.
Hannah just hasn’t made the huge strides one would expect from someone with her experience.
Don't think she'll have a WNBA career.
Play whoever's in front of you. At least we're legitimately talking tourney with this team ...unlike the moribund program that is the other major tenant at CHA.
ill look forward to your take as Im sure it will not have already been covered earlier on this board.
I have to laugh, not at you, but all last year & even early this year. We’d had all the usual suspects pissed because McCabe wasn’t playing (none of them admit it now) more & here you are wondering why she starts. You have to admit it’s funny.
The Truth is, contrary to what @Bulldogs1974 or @DewHawk or any other constantly negative poster says. We don’t have really enough information to understand what they’re looking for and what they see in every single practice and on every single spreadsheet.. they keep metrics and analysis on every single practice and every single game minute by minute. They even know historically over the year what groupings played the best together.
Either we trust them to do their job or we follow someone else. But it honestly doesn’t matter who the coach is, if they lose some people will always blame the coaches. It’s just how they’re wired .
Jan still has plenty of growth available to her, in her very short career. With that said, outside of the inbounds plays, which I personally thought were a bit of a wreck early on ( did NOT throw a fit about it) they’ve gotten better, and better all year.
She’s done a solid job….
The haters won’t like the next coach either 😂
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As we have seen against top 8 teams USC & Ohio State, IOWA can beat anybody IF:
* they keep turnovers to no more than 12 per game (they had 20 today)
* hit their FREE throws (they missed 7 FTs today)
* make their layups (they missed 10 layups today)
* they keep turnovers to no more than 12 per game (they had 20 today)
* hit their FREE throws (they missed 7 FTs today)
* make their layups (they missed 10 layups today)
Well sure 😊 but I don’t have to like it 😂 and she’d probably get called for more fouls w/us….doh!
that is a synopsis of the whole game
AH is much more agile then AOG.
Or at least 2 of 3, plus I think their Defense was only “ok” today. Vs USC they had 17 TOs but were 75% from the line & shot a bit better 44% to 41% and held USC to 35%
Agree. But that's on the refs, not her. The game is better with better officials
Agreed. I think AOG is almost there. If she had the same aggression as some of the centers that frustrate us, she'd prob be getting the same calls as the centers that frustrate us.
She's a very good player. I'd take her in a heartbeat. She's exactly what we're missing on this team. Put her at the 4 on this team and we could be an elite 8 team.
it's just disappointing that missed FTs, missed layups and turnovers remain MAJOR issues this late into the season.
We played a top 10 team to an overtime game in a hostile environment in a game which we were an underdog and battled to the bitter end. Ohio State is tough and physical and not only did we not back down we battled back which showed great character. Missed layups are part of the game unfortunately in womens basketball. They happen frequently to all teams. I'd agree on the missed free throws.
At this point I’d sadly have to agree. In fact it’s not very close right now. As a ridiculous comparison, a 6ft, quick twitch guard who can guard at least 3 positions that doesn't shoot very consistently like Kylie has a better shot. In fact, if Kyle handled the ball a little more consistently than she did, I think she might have a chance to sneak on a roster like Kate Martin did.
But nonetheless, neither are making it, and Kylie would have more value at this point in time🤷♂️ and I love Hannah and think she takes too much crap but she’s got to get it figured out, the talent there!
Agree. Certainly not if she's locked into being a post player....
Almost where? She still moves slowly, is charmin soft with the ball in her hands, (again today she had a couple of balls just ripped out of her hands when she had both hands on the ball), and can't rebound anything she has to move more then a ft for. Watch Syd rebound, and the watch AOG. Night and day difference in the ability, and WANT to to box out, ad go get rebounds.
I'm not going to raise a big stink over this. You're on the right track. Maybe an itsy-bitsy refinement.
Ka$h Alexander who played under Bluder said the magic number that was preached was 14 or under.
However, we had 17 TOs against a top 5 team (USC) and won.
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Also the number of FT missed probably isn't the best way to look at it. We shot ~71% today.
You can be 3 of 6 from the line and be 50% and say we only missed 3 FTs all day.
Believe Jan has said in several interviews 75+% is her threshold. Everyone wants 100% but let's be real here.
80+% s/b the goal to be better than avg teams.
Those bunnies would be one of the biggest cleanups this team needs. Too many don't look natural and forceful enough going up to the rim and then having soft hands on the release. Too many of them just look like hot potato prayers going up.
A very good defense can help offset some of our inconsistency sins. This is why Jan preaches defense. It can keep you in games to give you a shot to win it at the end.
You are 100% correct though. We can rub elbows with those in the upper tier to the point of getting the upper hand with some cleanup and if the zebras play fair.
My point, maybe unclear, was that she has the size and ability, but not the aggression or desire and some skill.
She has flashes of being a good 5, and then also does not.
Yes, and I’m pretty sure you already know this about me, and I’m certainly not hating @Franisdaman he’s the gold standard for this board 😉 but it’s the norm for WBB. But the general lack of perspective about the women’s basketball landscape is mind boggling.
I’m probably getting close to the 225-250 range on the number of women’s games I’ve watched since the beginning of Caitlin’s Senior season.
Missed layups is an ALL TIME, Every game thing. It ain’t just Angel, she’s just made it into an art form….😎
Missed FTs, I instinctively knew was wildly erratic, but I looked anyway, check out these stats….
WNBA last year Arike & CC only 2 women above 90%, 18 others above 80, 14 more in the 70’s…that’s it. Out of 144ish players….its a thing!
And turnovers, there are only 4 teams in the Big10 under 14 per game.
So when cats like @DewHawk run amock screaming about coaching and fundamentals, I think he ought to know what he’s talking about.
We certainly could & should be better but hell CC throws the ball away 6 times a game. She just makes up for it everywhere else🤷♂️
Probably a tick short as a 4, but your point remains. I don’t personally however think tOSU is an elite 8 team. I’ll be rooting for them as it makes the conference look good, but they are missing something 🤷♂️
For seeding purposes, even if they don't get UCLA, winning at Michigan would be just as big to help get us off the dreaded 8/9 line.
I believe they struggle some with things you mentioned, but I think part of it is with their talent level especially when playing with more athletic teams. I just hope Jan can get a few of the talented players that she's going after.
Shooting percentage is down, for pretty much everyone, because teams do not have to shade a player toward Clark like in years past. They can play everyone straight up, which makes it a lot harder to get wide open shots. Just like the men, this team struggles to get clean looks due to not being athletic enough with the ball. When they do have clean looks, they shoot it fairly well. Stuelke has always struggled to finish inside with bigger players mainly because she doesn't square up. She plays off balance a lot.
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Check this out. I would argue that if we make our FTs in regulation, we likely win the game.
We shot 50% (4-8) from the FT line in the first half.
Lucy, Hannah & Guyton were a combined 2-6 (33%) from the FT line in the 1st half.
In regulation, Lucy was 6-10 (60%) from the FT line. Caitlin would have been 9-10 or 10-10.
Free Throws, by Quarter:
QTR 1:..... 1-2 (Lucy was 1-2)
QTR 2:..... 3-6 (Hannah 0-2; Guyton 1-2)
QTR 3:.......7-9 (Lucy was 2-4)
QTR 4........4-5 (Lucy was 3-4)
OT:...............2-2
TOTAL.......17-24 (71%)
I'd take a player like her any time. Big body, aggressive, likes to draw contact (BTW that helps get you ft's), can get you a bucket when you need one. These are the types of players who can do well in the W.
The athleticism or lack there of, is way overdone. I’m not picking on you, I’m just saying, it’s one of those clichéd things that we’ve been trained to say.
If you’re in the camp, that thinks USC was super athletic, by the way I’m actually not in that camp, I think they’re pretty average, but most people are in that camp. They absolutely did not look like the more athletic team in our game. And Ohio State today didn’t look like the more athletic team. They looked like the more physical team and they took advantage of it with the lack of consistent foul calls.
The men, I honestly don’t have any clue what they are or aren’t. I don’t watch them much. But my assumption is it’s still all about their inability to guard somebody.
As for whether or not his points have merit, yes, they clearly need to do all those things better. But I’m gonna make a statement that is honestly gonna be one of those “yeah, no shit” statements….
But you win or lose by making more shots and more free throws than the other team does.
Cotie McMahon at one time was three for 15. She got on the heater at the end. They also had the luxury of home cooking.
As has been discussed ad nauseam. Every one of these women on every team are wildly inconsistent even in the WNBA. The best, like Caitlin Clark, are historically, game to game more consistent and that’s why they’re superstars.
No nothing more nothing less🤷♂️
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Experience should help going forward. Guyton hit that big 3 pointer in the 4th to help get it to OT.
I’m not sure on her in the W. She won’t bulldoze near as many people there & she’s only 6ft & not a great shooter.
Agree. The first half was atrocious. Not bad after haltime as the %s picked up. Good until OT where our FG% went to 14%. Game over.
I just love her aggression and fearless play. They can teach her to expand her game. Well, maybe a lil.
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