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You have to consider who you're responding to. Tailgate Tommy is the leader of the pack for stupidity in PBP threads for several years. It appears he's already built up a substantial lead this year.
As opposed to bring the leader of the pack for the stupidity of the sunshine and rainbows brigade, that hurts 😂
 
My feelings about Dresser and ISU are no secret, but along with having a rabid fan base, comes a percentage of Iowa fans that don't behave very well in Carver.
From some people I've communicated with since last evening, sounds like there were some really obnoxious and disgusting things said during the dual.
At least put your disclaimer that your only sources are ISU fans. I know almost a dozen people who sat within 5 rows of their bench. The disgusting behavior was the Karen on their bench and Chittum. The obnoxious behavior was Carr, coaches, and a few other teammates.
 
You are right and I stayed away for so long. Got on to buy tickets and got sucked back in🤦‍♀️. I agree, most provide good commentary and perspective.

you are so right. I stayed away for so long. Dang it. Got on to find tickets and got sucked back in. 🙃 I know most people want success and are passionate about the sport. I just see what goes into all of this, the training, lifting, eating 6,000 calories day of the right food, school, mental prep, faith, etc. so when someone takes a stupid jab, it’s so gross. I appreciate the constructive contributions though.

Ben recognized several times where he could have capitalized and scored. He did good things and has stuff to work on.

Weight gain is hard when it has to be good weight. He has put on 20 pounds of good weight since May and keeps going. It’s going to take a little time.

Anyway, Go Hawks! 💪
Hi Tina it's Corby. I know it's hard to not respond when you see negative shit about Ben but you won't win with these people. It will only put a target on Ben's back and make the idiots say more dumb shit. Im hoping to make a dual this year if so I will make sure I find you and say hello.
 
Your fall to full on crybaby, negative prick should be studied by a top notch therapist.
I knew you wouldn’t be too far behind. Your fall from being an insider to full on fraud has been impressive in and of itself. You have fewer hits than playoff Aaron Judge.
 
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I knew you wouldn’t be too far behind. Your fall from being an insider to full on fraud has been impressive in and of itself. You have fewer hits than playoff Aaron Judge.
Is this one of them jokes that won’t land like Willie was talking about?
 
All in all...the dual was about what I expected. Not counting the 6, I think the Clones maxed out there expectation; they came to wrestle. I'd like to see where 125 and 141 are at by the end of year. Drake wrestled well. Parco beat a tough guy and did what he had to do to keep the lead. If you look at his history, he has wrestled and won a ton of close matches. Really wish he had got a TD to see how he rode the Cuban.

Thought Caliendo got caught up in getting a big early lead and gassed himself in the first a bit. Hat's off to Euton...very tough kid to takedown head on..solid hips. I think ISU found their guy at 165. I really like that Caliendo is a goer but I think in some situations, it's ok to pick your spots. Brandon Sorensen had a pattern to bonus points that he would nearly always finish in the third period with a full tank. Wasn't sexy but got the job done...and that was with a 2pt TD. (Also see Buchanan)

Besides Nelson, Kennedy is a guy who also has been dealt a lot of crap in here. Thought Tom was on it here because this matchup was probably decided in the room...who was the bigger "big brother" to Riggins. Loved the effort that Kennedy put in to getting this tech because its not like Riggins was fully broke. Both Kennedy and Tom understood the assignment.

I've seen a lot of guys who would become All Americans and champs wilt in their first Carver dual. Get out there and gas because they were so keyed up. Heard about Lincoln plus Sorensen and Kemerer come to mind. Ferrari is just one cool dude, great technically, tough to score on and has a good tank. Looked like he could go another 7 mins. ISU guy looked a lot bigger but you wouldn't know it.

They didn't do much in the first period but that TD at the end of the first just must have been a morale killer for ISU. Buchanan slapped on a tough ride and Carrol had no answer Buchanan was methodical in his approach and finished off the maj in the 3rd.

I thought Kueter wrestled alright. He needs to trust in his stuff and take more shots. He was getting to his snaps but wasn't ready to finish or pounce when the Cuban was snapped down. I'd like to see him go hi low on him. If he beats the Cuban, it's going to be done on the mat.
Agree, Kueter had no chain wrestling. Confidence/Nerves plays a role. More matches will suit him. But he had nothing for Bastida on the feet. Unfortunately he has some big monsters at HWT. Hendrickson, Stevenson, Kerkliviet, Schultz. Going to have to learn to use his speed and get confident in that chain wrestling.
 
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At least put your disclaimer that your only sources are ISU fans. I know almost a dozen people who sat within 5 rows of their bench. The disgusting behavior was the Karen on their bench and Chittum. The obnoxious behavior was Carr, coaches, and a few other teammates.
I'm reasonably sure both sides can have an argument with credibility.

Just as the situation in Ames last season, stuff happens and selling booze at Carver might inflame some people.
Just adds to the intrigue for next year.
 
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Not even in the same area code? Geez, what a stupid thing to write. He snapped him down several times, almost had him pinned, twice. Ben controlled the top game. Rewatch the match, we just did. He was in deep on 2 shots. He went upper body and maybe shouldn’t have. Quit being a hater. Such a huge gap? The only gap I see is in your analysis. We knew Yonger would come out “clubbing” and Ben weathered the storm well. Ben is such a student, he will learn from it. It’s wrestling, and maybe try to write more constructive feedback and not be such a DB with the unnecessary added bs. 😡
I thought Ben wrestled fine. Cass used to easily handle Kerkvleit and look at Kerk now! Ben is young and constantly learning! Loved the cradle! Thought he was exciting to watch!
 
The kiss blowing goes much farther than that. Gabe did it last year after beating Feldkamp, and if I Remember correctly Bastida started it the year he beat Warner. It seems like this will become a yearly tradition.
Ech also blew Tom a kiss and Tom blew it back at him. I believe they had a blowing kiss exchange 🤣🤣. It's great for the sport not sure why everyone in wrestling gets so mad . For being such a tough sport wrestling people are easily triggered
 
Ironside struggles with names, even for the Hawks. SB is now and shall forever be “Buckman”!!
I have always thought, for a guy that's around the program and does their play by play, he doesn't know a lot of the names. That said, he probably don't give a sh!t!
 
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I'm reasonably sure both sides can have an argument with credibility.

Just as the situation in Ames last season, stuff happens and selling booze at Carver might inflame some people.
Just adds to the intrigue for next year.
There weren't any Iowa State fans in the area, so you're getting your information second hand from your clone friends. That's a big disclaimer to make when lecturing Hawkeye fans who were actually in attendance, and frankly didn't do anything disgusting as far as I could hear. The only profanity I heard all night was Chittum calling Teemer a bitch and a pussy after he mff. That kid was full on disgusting in the moment. Dresser got plenty of ribbing, but nothing obscene or disgusting. A little skepticism from your clown friends recap of the night could be appropriate.
 
Its true I don't post BS. Yonger was 237 and Ben almost 233. They were just over 4lbs apart. Ben needs some more experience that's all it's not a size issue. Yonger was undefeated last year going into NCAA. Prior to Iowa st he beat Gadson in freestyle. Yonger is a very high level wrestler and so is Ben. Not worried about Ben at all he will be just fine
He is shorter than Ben and has more horsepower. Who knows how old he and the strangler really are, but they look old. He’s also very quick and crafty from the feet. The 2 take downs he had were contested well, but his experience and horsepower is what let him complete them. Only disappointing thing was Ben not being able to finish that near cradle. There are 2 methods that work better than the old head in the side. With Ben’s length, he could be a cradle machine, so he should practice his finishes of far and near cradle a lot. Not many guys even look for cradles, so guts on bottom open themselves to them a lot, but not enough guys take advantage of them, and they are deadly, even against the best guys.
 
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I don’t think people are writing him off, just surprised the gap is so wide, being a world champion and top 5 (3?) P4P recruit. People might counter with “Christian Carroll got majored” but I guess I expect more from our staff than I do Dresser. The loss isn’t surprising, not even being in the same area code, was.
was only 5 point loss, you act like he was easily tech falled. Too bad his devoted wrestling year wasn’t next year, heavyweight opens up more.
 
There weren't any Iowa State fans in the area, so you're getting your information second hand from your clone friends. That's a big disclaimer to make when lecturing Hawkeye fans who were actually in attendance, and frankly didn't do anything disgusting as far as I could hear. The only profanity I heard all night was Chittum calling Teemer a bitch and a pussy after he mff. That kid was full on disgusting in the moment. Dresser got plenty of ribbing, but nothing obscene or disgusting. A little skepticism from your clown friends recap of the night could be appropriate.
I'm not attempting to argue any specifics with you because I wasn't there, but I've watched Iowa vs ISU in the past in both Ames and IC.
I realize it's probably the most intense matchup in all of college wrestling.
So I can easily believe anything I hear and I'm not naive enough to think it wasn't pretty heated.
Notice that I'm not questioning your account.
 
That’s what I just said
Being able to put weight on easy is genetic. Ben is tall with long lanky arms and legs. No matter how hard he lifts, he will probably never have really thick arms and legs without being juiced, but he can still build strength. Putting away 6000 calories a day is like a side job. One good thing about being a football player is they are always good at beefing guys up. Very hard to put on weight during wrestling season. Practice burns many calories.
 
Maybe I missed it, but has there been any discussion about Echemendia blowing kisses after he lost???

What kind of douchebag does that after a loss?
Apparently Dresser's hatred of Iowa has trickled down to his wrestlers.
 
I unfortunately had the privilege of sitting close to Echs gf,wife,lady idk. She was one loud obnoxious woman during the match, she took the loss harder than he. She got carvered hard.
 
I have to confess that I was warned TWICE by the ushers for behaving badly...... I know, I know, I know. But Carver made me do it. It's like I got caught up in the moment, and well...... it just happened. Next thing I knew, I was screaming, "get him a pillow" during the 197 match.... I got the "side-eye" from the usher for being a little "overly excited" screaming for Angelo. (I still have no voice for that one) But the icing on the cake was the usher coming over and nicely asking me to sit down when I may have gotten too close when screaming at the ref in Ben's match. But come on, the cradle was locked, his toe was in, but the action was stopped? It was like I was living in the twilight zone.

So for all those instances, I am utterly ashamed for behaving so badly. . . . Look what you people have made me become! And yes, just to not offend any snowflakes; by "you people" I am still referring to the cesspool. The worst part? I did this all in front of my own mother..... I was so ashamed. (my ears are still ringing from her shrieks cheering our boys on!)

My prayer is the cesspool finds it in their hearts to forgive this error in judgement on my pert. I promise not to do it again.....

OK, I lied. I'll probably be doing it often. Whose bright idea was it to put parents on the front row anyway????

GO HAWKS

#itsjustwrestling
 
I have to confess that I was warned TWICE by the ushers for behaving badly...... I know, I know, I know. But Carver made me do it. It's like I got caught up in the moment, and well...... it just happened. Next thing I knew, I was screaming, "get him a pillow" during the 197 match.... I got the "side-eye" from the usher for being a little "overly excited" screaming for Angelo. (I still have no voice for that one) But the icing on the cake was the usher coming over and nicely asking me to sit down when I may have gotten too close when screaming at the ref in Ben's match. But come on, the cradle was locked, his toe was in, but the action was stopped? It was like I was living in the twilight zone.

So for all those instances, I am utterly ashamed for behaving so badly. . . . Look what you people have made me become! And yes, just to not offend any snowflakes; by "you people" I am still referring to the cesspool. The worst part? I did this all in front of my own mother..... I was so ashamed. (my ears are still ringing from her shrieks cheering our boys on!)

My prayer is the cesspool finds it in their hearts to forgive this error in judgement on my pert. I promise not to do it again.....

OK, I lied. I'll probably be doing it often. Whose bright idea was it to put parents on the front row anyway????

GO HAWKS

#itsjustwrestling
So what, Terry can yell it but as soon as Phil yells “Get him a pillow” during Carroll’s tummy time it’s not kosher? That usher don’t like tough chirping.
 
I have to confess that I was warned TWICE by the ushers for behaving badly...... I know, I know, I know. But Carver made me do it. It's like I got caught up in the moment, and well...... it just happened. Next thing I knew, I was screaming, "get him a pillow" during the 197 match.... I got the "side-eye" from the usher for being a little "overly excited" screaming for Angelo. (I still have no voice for that one) But the icing on the cake was the usher coming over and nicely asking me to sit down when I may have gotten too close when screaming at the ref in Ben's match. But come on, the cradle was locked, his toe was in, but the action was stopped? It was like I was living in the twilight zone.

So for all those instances, I am utterly ashamed for behaving so badly. . . . Look what you people have made me become! And yes, just to not offend any snowflakes; by "you people" I am still referring to the cesspool. The worst part? I did this all in front of my own mother..... I was so ashamed. (my ears are still ringing from her shrieks cheering our boys on!)

My prayer is the cesspool finds it in their hearts to forgive this error in judgement on my pert. I promise not to do it again.....

OK, I lied. I'll probably be doing it often. Whose bright idea was it to put parents on the front row anyway????

GO HAWKS

#itsjustwrestling
I caw bowshite. The Carver ushers could give a rat’s behind about the behavior you described above. You’re just describing another day in the office for TnT. (Or is Usher a pet name for the missus?) She might get emb…. Naw. I remember a story you told about her getting worked up during a match back in the day. Then again, your mom ushered you in…..
 
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I caw bowshite. The Carver ushers could give a rat’s behind about the behavior you described above. You’re just describing another day in the office for TnT. (Or is Usher a pet name for the missus?) She might get emb…. Naw. I remember a story you told about her getting worked up during a match back in the day. Then again, your mom ushered you in…..
To be honest my mom’s behavior was more deplorable that mine cavorting with the enemy and all. Her and the Carr’s have been friends for years so she has to yuck it up with them hugs and all that junk. Of course me not wanting to seem rude and deplorable like all us true Iowa fans are, I gave David and Nate a hug as well. But it was a “side hug” and I didn’t like it. Just know that inside I was seething at this, my own actions but again, I just didn’t want to disappoint my mom, she’s been through so much.

As for the missus…… well I can’t really get into her behaviors because then I’ll catch hell for not posting a picture of her. Just know she also was not amused by some of the official’s calls, but I did catch her politely clap during PK’s match. (Between us, I’ve had to medicate her during the matches to keep her calm). Not really sure how it’s going to work traveling to St. Louis next weekend with her. Hopefully I can get by the pharmacy before we leave out.
 
I have to confess that I was warned TWICE by the ushers for behaving badly...... I know, I know, I know. But Carver made me do it. It's like I got caught up in the moment, and well...... it just happened. Next thing I knew, I was screaming, "get him a pillow" during the 197 match.... I got the "side-eye" from the usher for being a little "overly excited" screaming for Angelo. (I still have no voice for that one) But the icing on the cake was the usher coming over and nicely asking me to sit down when I may have gotten too close when screaming at the ref in Ben's match. But come on, the cradle was locked, his toe was in, but the action was stopped? It was like I was living in the twilight zone.

So for all those instances, I am utterly ashamed for behaving so badly. . . . Look what you people have made me become! And yes, just to not offend any snowflakes; by "you people" I am still referring to the cesspool. The worst part? I did this all in front of my own mother..... I was so ashamed. (my ears are still ringing from her shrieks cheering our boys on!)

My prayer is the cesspool finds it in their hearts to forgive this error in judgement on my pert. I promise not to do it again.....

OK, I lied. I'll probably be doing it often. Whose bright idea was it to put parents on the front row anyway????

GO HAWKS

#itsjustwrestling
I was watching from my livingroom here in South Dakota Coach, and you may have faintly heard my scream at the ref in the BK match. Keuter was in no doubt.
 
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He still has to contend with 6 guys ranked over him in the Big 10 before we think about the NCAAs
I can’t control if they wrestle each other.

Unless you’re suggesting Kueter won’t make the tournament, them actually wrestling is chance. I’d like to see it.
 
I have to confess that I was warned TWICE by the ushers for behaving badly...... I know, I know, I know. But Carver made me do it. It's like I got caught up in the moment, and well...... it just happened. Next thing I knew, I was screaming, "get him a pillow" during the 197 match.... I got the "side-eye" from the usher for being a little "overly excited" screaming for Angelo. (I still have no voice for that one) But the icing on the cake was the usher coming over and nicely asking me to sit down when I may have gotten too close when screaming at the ref in Ben's match. But come on, the cradle was locked, his toe was in, but the action was stopped? It was like I was living in the twilight zone.

So for all those instances, I am utterly ashamed for behaving so badly. . . . Look what you people have made me become! And yes, just to not offend any snowflakes; by "you people" I am still referring to the cesspool. The worst part? I did this all in front of my own mother..... I was so ashamed. (my ears are still ringing from her shrieks cheering our boys on!)

My prayer is the cesspool finds it in their hearts to forgive this error in judgement on my pert. I promise not to do it again.....

OK, I lied. I'll probably be doing it often. Whose bright idea was it to put parents on the front row anyway????

GO HAWKS

#itsjustwrestling
The most impressive part of this post was how you were cheering for Angelo in probably the 2nd most important dual of the year. Simply shows what type of person you are considering your son is the regular starter. Kudos to you I know a lot of parents that would be livid and pout from that match on. I sure hope Gabe beats Starcrap!!
 
The most impressive part of this post was how you were cheering for Angelo in probably the 2nd most important dual of the year. Simply shows what type of person you are considering your son is the regular starter. Kudos to you I know a lot of parents that would be livid and pout from that match on. I sure hope Gabe beats Starcrap!!
Have you ever met a lady that was kinda pregnant? Never, because they don't exist. Parent or not a parent, I support this team and ALL it's wrestlers. Not sometime but all the time. Sure, I would have loved to see Gabe wrestle, but there were parents last year that sat in the same boat as we did this year, I wonder how they felt? How they'd respond? But what's cooler than that? There were parents this year who got to sit in the same boat we did last year. And that feeling is one worth sharing. After Angelo's match his dad was a couple rows back, I went up and we slapped hands. He had the same look of pride that I did last year, "That's MY kid making his mark!" As a parent, if you're not willing to share that experience, there is something really wrong with you.

As a coach, those moves Tom made Saturday were BRILLIANT! I'm sure the ISU wrestlers were training specifically for Nelson and Gabe. Both of them have unique styles are are hard eggs to crack. Watching their 184 warm up, you saw a bit of confidence in his swagger. He was ready for Gabe Arnold. Then........

This night now resides in the history books of this storied rivalry. Two years in a row, two true freshmen, took out 2 super seniors at the same weight class, in the exact same dual and helped keep a 20 year perfect record intact. That's pretty freaking awesome if you ask me.

Go HAWKS.
 
You know, this made me laugh even though I know it shouldn't have
Choking Andre The Giant GIF
You need to stop this silly behavior before it becomes acceptable here in the cesspool
 
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