****Official Iowa vs MSU game thread****

[irunlikeAcieEarl]

Iowa "going cold" and the refs swallowing the whistle while MSU is on defense is a direct relationship. It's hard to score points when you are being slapped silly every time you touch the ball. I don't like to blame officials, but they are THE reason this game turned out this way. Iowa was on the verge of blowing MSU out of the arena until they were suddenly allowed to do whatever the hell they wanted on defense and Ward was allowed to push anyone in his way out of the lane when he got the ball.

MSU started to win every 50/50 ball since we went cold.

 

[justinjdry]

I disagree. Iowa was winning when they were missing 3's. Even up the free throws and this game is close to tied. Well, not now, but that's because the game changed when MSU got ahead.

I'll double down on that and say the bad calls took a major toll on the Iowa D.

 

[Carolina Hawk]

jeepers Dailey shot disappeared this years

He has never had a shot.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

38-13 run.

Embarrassing

Ya that can’t happen

 

[dawgs_04]

We wanted to lose by 10 or less for a quality loss.

Doesn't matter if they lose by 10 or 99. It's an acceptable loss.

 

[michael.nelson311]

this is why you need guards. JBO can only shoot 30 ft 3pt shots and Moss dissappeared and Connor has no offensive game.

Maybe in B1G tourney 3rd time can be charm.

You can't play from the bench. Moss was on the bench during the initial come back..its going to be very hard for us to recruit a PG worth a crap if CMAC is still on the team.
Im not sold on him at all

 

[farfaraway]

Wondering...does rough defense cause 24% from 3 point range?

 

[kmorgan12]

What the hell is this lineup?

This happened in a couple key situations. Very few scorers in and they didn't play defense. This equaled huge scoring runs by MSU.

 

[HawkLogic]

38-13 run.

Embarrassing

Fran needs to slow it down vs an MSU team. Walk it up the court and work the clock. Quick shots and lack of guard play.

 

[BlazinHawk]

Lol at everybody blaming the officials

LOL at dumbasses who don't see the officiating was part of the loss.

 

[BUCKSNDUCKS]

Can’t hit anything

 

[TheRealHerky]

Those blaming the refs can't accept the fact that Iowa is simply getting out played, out hustled and out worked by a team far more talented and better coached.

 

[Daisy Mae]

CMAC......zip,nadda,zilch

 

[HawkLogic]

I applaud the effort for 20 minutes.

These guys got totally outclassed in 2nd half. Athletically couldn't handle MSU and guards couldn't create any space...garbage 2nd half.

 

[michael.nelson311]

He has never had a shot.

We play 4 on 5 on offense when he is in...Sunday watch how much room the defends give him

 

[BioHawk]

I wish the officials called a legit game because then I could tell if Iowa just fell apart. But it's tough to say if Iowa was falling apart or if the officiating caused that to happen. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to win the next few games to prove the point. Then, we can lose to MSU in the Big 10 tournament again for the same reason, watch them get a 2 seed, then lose in the 2nd or 3rd round because all of their players foul out.

 

[unoHawkeye]

You can't play from the bench. Moss was on the bench during the initial come back..its going to be very hard for us to recruit a PG worth a crap if CMAC is still on the team.
Im not sold on him at all

Moss Bohannon and Wieskamp were all as bad.

Iowa needs to learn to play through physicality. They folded in the second half

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Wieskamp, Moss, and Bohannon 4-20 from the floor. I believe they were 7-28 up in EL as well. There’s the difference, folks

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

It amazes me how announcers are in bed with a program like MSU.


MSU was MSU....Izzo is great....blah...blah...blah

 

[HawkLogic]

What adjustment? Winston stroked 4 3pt shots and Iowa guards couldn't make shots.

 

[drh1150]

Once again the signature Fran uninterrupted run to put us away.

 

[justinjdry]

Wieskamp, Moss, and Bohannon 4-20 from the floor. I believe they were 7-28 up in EL as well. There’s the difference, folks

Last time it was Garza, McCaffrey and Kriener that went 1-18.

 

[denmar81]

Those blaming the refs can't accept the fact that Iowa is simply getting out played, out hustled and out worked by a team far more talented and better coached.

I agree but it’s quite obvious MSU gets away with more than any other team in the B1G. Ward shouldn’t last a half.

 

[sadiehawkins]

Fran needs to slow it down vs an MSU team. Walk it up the court and work the clock. Quick shots and lack of guard play.

Then let Conner dribble it around and throw it away. Yep that's a plan

 

[bansheexyz]

Moss was a huge scorer for us the last two games and barely had any minutes or shots tonight. If Winston doesn't make his threes and MSU goes down by 15 or more, this is a different game. McQuaid needed to be faceguarded and forced to drive.

 

[hawkedoff]

Wondering...does rough defense cause 24% from 3 point range?

Yes

 

[Rudolph]

Iowa is close. Michigan State is really damn good, always hard to beat them unless refs disallow their unbelievable physicality, and Winston and McQuaid do what seems like always happens—shot out of their minds to break the game. Michigan State had to play out of their ass to change the tenor of that game and they did.

And Iowa now knows exactly how good they can be, but how much more work is to be done.

I'm encouraged. I want so badly for Iowa to beat Michigan State. I hate to swallow this as a damn fan. I have a good feeling these kids on this team are going to use this game to fuel their work and attention to detail for at least a few weeks.

 

[BioHawk]

Those blaming the refs can't accept the fact that Iowa is simply getting out played, out hustled and out worked by a team far more talented and better coached.

Again, did this happen because they were being fouled every time they touched the ball? They were up 8 points in the second half and suddenly forgot how to shoot? It's what happens. If Iowa goes and loses the next 3 games badly, we'll know what happened I guess.

 

[HawkInArk]

It amazes me how announcers are in bed with a program like MSU.


MSU was MSU....Izzo is great....blah...blah...blah

They were REALLY talking us up when we were playing good. And then we went to shit - hard to continue complimenting when things have fallen apart. What a crybaby post.

 

[HungryHawk]

Wondering...does rough defense cause 24% from 3 point range?

It can, yeah.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

Last time it was Garza, McCaffrey and Kriener that went 1-18.

You’re right. The 3 I mentioned were a torrid 10-25. TC was the only one to show up for both games. But I’m sure we are better off without him like a lot of people think.

 

[justinjdry]

I applaud the effort for 20 minutes.

These guys got totally outclassed in 2nd half. Athletically couldn't handle MSU and guards couldn't create any space...garbage 2nd half.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[irunlikeAcieEarl]

I wish the officials called a legit game because then I could tell if Iowa just fell apart. But it's tough to say if Iowa was falling apart or if the officiating caused that to happen. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to win the next few games to prove the point. Then, we can lose to MSU in the Big 10 tournament again for the same reason, watch them get a 2 seed, then lose in the 2nd or 3rd round because all of their players foul out.

Big ten officials suck, no doubt, you can't let that demoralize you.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Those blaming the refs can't accept the fact that Iowa is simply getting out played, out hustled and out worked by a team far more talented and better coached.

Or maybe Michigan State should try harder to lose.

Why should we always have to do the work?.....

 

[the24fan]

IMO it really showed how we struggle when guard play is needed at certain points in the game. Winston picked us apart when he needed to. That’s great guard play to know when you have to score. Inability of guards to put pressure on the defense makes it easy to clamp down defensively inside which MSU did well in the 2nd half. Just a better team we lost to.

 

[justinjdry]

You’re right. The 3 I mentioned were a torrid 10-25. TC was the only one to show up for both games. But I’m sure we are better off without him like a lot of people think.

Tyler has been doing his part all season imho. His D can be weak but he usually makes up for it in other ways. Honestly if I had to blame anyone today, I would have to blame Fran's coaching.

 

[hawkeye ball]

This game is not on Conner, but very disappointed in his minutes. Not getting much production from him and he's seeing more minutes than should be IMO.

 

[drh1150]

38-13 run.

Embarrassing

24-2. Unimaginable, yet i watched it.

 

[unoHawkeye]

What adjustment? Winston stroked 4 3pt shots and Iowa guards couldn't make shots.

This was the difference to me. MSU has a player who routinely answers other teams’ runs and can keep them in games. Iowa has players capable of doing this, but they didn’t do it tonight. They folded.

It’s a loss, and it’s not even that bad of one. Would have liked it to be a close game on the home court but oh well

 

[justinjdry]

Tyler has been doing his part all season imho. His D can be weak but he usually makes up for it in other ways. Honestly if I had to blame anyone today, I would have to blame Fran's coaching.

And whoever brought the can of PAM cooking spray for the rims.