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*****Iowa vs Mich St Game Thread*****

Just watched the game and my takeaway is this: our inbounding plays and passing vision SUCKS. This team has to get better at recognizing danger and what windows exist and don't. They also didn't make a single 1v1 driving layup all game. ALL GAME. In fact, some of those attempst turned into open runout 3s for them to get back in it. In the 4th quarter I was screaming for them to take more threes, to back away and shoot instead of driving into traffic, and they just kept driving into traffic and getting blocked or forced into tough spinning fadeaways. Lucy Olsen's final 2 shots were horrid choices given the way they were defending. This team needs to recognize its athletic deficit and shoot more 3s against staunch defenses like MSU and Tennessee.

Oh I almost forgot. We had a chance to shoot a 3 down 1 with 16 seconds left, foul, and then shoot another 3. What do we do instead? We pass pass dribble dribble for 15 seconds and then take a contested 2. That's not maximizing your chances to win.
What was UIowa’s record vs. MSU the past couple of years? We stole one last year at home…didn’t MSU get us at their place The year before? MSU is a toughy for the Hawks.
 
30 turnovers earlier and now 21 today and people still reflexively defend the coaching. Nothing new under the Sun. Same people still defending Brian Ferentz and his offense.
Awfully harsh for a young team trying to gain their footing.
I’ve said before people better get Iowa this year, cause once these freshman figure it all out they’re gonna be a tough team to beat.
 
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Ok I’m going to say this because some of you keep talking about the Freshman. The team on the court is not that young. Obviously missing Clark is the main piece of the puzzle. But the Freshman are not starting or in fact getting big minutes. Sorry to be an ass but they’re getting very limited minutes at this point.
 
MSU is not close to an upper level team either. We played like garbage and just as easily could have won. It's ugly basketball game after game.
 
Ok I’m going to say this because some of you keep talking about the Freshman. The team on the court is not that young. Obviously missing Clark is the main piece of the puzzle. But the Freshman are not starting or in fact getting big minutes. Sorry to be an ass but they’re getting very limited minutes at this point.
Though I think it's fair to say that the experienced players on the team are very inexperienced in the post-Clark team. New roles for everyone.

Affolter, Feuerbach, O'Grady, and Stuelke were never tasked with carrying the team through crunch time. The were only tasked with fulfilling their role. They have never had that responsibility. Olsen has never played in this bigger environment.

The "Freshmen" inexperience just compounds that, so really the whole team needs experience.
 
Just watched the game and my takeaway is this: our inbounding plays and passing vision SUCKS. This team has to get better at recognizing danger and what windows exist and don't. They also didn't make a single 1v1 driving layup all game. ALL GAME. In fact, some of those attempst turned into open runout 3s for them to get back in it. In the 4th quarter I was screaming for them to take more threes, to back away and shoot instead of driving into traffic, and they just kept driving into traffic and getting blocked or forced into tough spinning fadeaways. Lucy Olsen's final 2 shots were horrid choices given the way they were defending. This team needs to recognize its athletic deficit and shoot more 3s against staunch defenses like MSU and Tennessee.

Oh I almost forgot. We had a chance to shoot a 3 down 1 with 16 seconds left, foul, and then shoot another 3. What do we do instead? We pass pass dribble dribble for 15 seconds and then take a contested 2. That's not maximizing your chances to win.
The biggest issue with that logic is this NOT a good three point shooting team. Who would you want taking a pressure three on this team? Not just CC22 gone, but big play Kate, and March Marshall as well. In time maybe Guyton and Mallengi, but thats a tough call right now.....
 
I was at the game close to the court and I call that a home court win. Michigan State's full court press was very physical-constant bumping all the way up the court .Don't think you would get by with that if you were the visiting team.
 
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Was really hoping after the Tenn game Jan would have figured out a little better how to handle the pressing. However it as not to be and if she can't figure it out as a coach or Iowa just doesn't have the guards to figure it out and not turn it over 20+ times a game then they are not going to be anywhere near as good as they think they are going to be.
 
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Iowa actually handled the press pretty well, but it does wear on them mentally. They managed to pass out of most trap situations as well. The issue with the press is that team van run it the whole game without Iowa getting any east buckets, so odds are that there will be turnovers from it. Those stand out,

The majority of the turnovers are just issues with pass/catch, or making poor decisions. Inbounders and sideline plays need to use the option to throw it off defenders legs when necessary.

Surprisingly for the game yesterday, the game was lost with poor shooting and an inability to stop one 5'7" player in the 4th quarter. Better shooting in the 4th quarter wins the game.

It's just experience, and experience that knows what to do in the last 5 minutes. Watch how the 9pt lead was lost. Players need to know what kind of shot is necessary to extend a lead or kill a run, and when to assert themselves as individuals. Confidence and experience.
 
Ok I’m going to say this because some of you keep talking about the Freshman. The team on the court is not that young. Obviously missing Clark is the main piece of the puzzle. But the Freshman are not starting or in fact getting big minutes. Sorry to be an ass but they’re getting very limited minutes at this point.
The problem is that the freshman seem to be the heart of the team, when thy dont play as well on the road the team is going to stuggle. The other issue is that many of the players we are counting on did not get enought time to develop, they sat behind 5 and 6 year players. Being older is still less valuable than time on the court.
 
Absolutely not, BUT we've booted two games where we had an 8-9 point lead in the last few minutes. I give them a mulligan against Tenn. Today MSU played as poorly as we did for most of the game, and every time we scored a couple of baskets we'd go right back to multiple turnovers. Some of this is coaching. Some is players no doubt. First bad game for Lucy at Iowa. After Syd looked like her old self against ISU, she played poorly in pretty much every phase, and is VERY indecisive. Mallengi is struggling. Heiden HAS to play more regardless of her play. She's so much more athletic and aggressive then AOG, and we need her in a big way as conference play heats up.

When did we have an 8-9 point lead against Tennessee?
 
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I like the way Lisa and now Jan are building their team with recruited high school kids rather than recruiting over them by going to the portal. I think getting a portal player each year or every other year makes sense though. I look at next year and especially the year after when all of these freshmen will be juniors and the next class will be sophomores and a couple good freshmen of course. Now, if Jan can just keep them all. If Jan would be bringing in 7 or 8 portal players on a regular basis, I would lose interest pretty fast.
 
When did we have an 8-9 point lead against Tennessee?
We had a couple 6 point leads in the 2nd qtr, a 5 point lead with 7 minutes left in the 3rd, and a 4th qtr lead of 66-62 with 4:38 to go. Tennessee went ahead for good with 3:04 remaining. Our biggest lead was 6 points.
 
McCabe has trouble getting open; when she is open we need to recognize it. There were 2 or 3 times late she was uncovered on the wing and we failed to get the ball to her.
Especially in the 4th quarter when they could not score she was wide open right side top of the circle and I believe it was Affolter didn't see her or wanted something different and went to the other side.
 
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Especially in the 4th quarter when they could not score she was wide open right side top of the circle and I believe it was Affolter didn't see her or wanted something different and went to the other side.
I have noticed there have been a fair amount of times McCabe has been open this year and the ball does not find her.
 
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Was really hoping after the Tenn game Jan would have figured out a little better how to handle the pressing. However it as not to be and if she can't figure it out as a coach or Iowa just doesn't have the guards to figure it out and not turn it over 20+ times a game then they are not going to be anywhere near as good as they think they are going to be.


Probably better be more concerned about the half court traps and bad entry passes to the post.
 
Probably better be more concerned about the half court traps and bad entry passes to the post.
I think you’re underestimating how bad we’ve been in the full court press. There’s more to it than just getting the ball over the mid court line. If it slows you down and takes time off the shot clock it forces you to hurry up in the halfcourt. Once we beat the press we rarely attack against it and get an open layup or open 3’s. Just my opinion but we’re way too tentative after breaking the press.
 
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