ISU pbp/discussion
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I get that angst is the norm, but what loss was really some underperformance? Both Peterson and Block are freshmen coming off major injuries and weren’t exactly the highest level of recruits. I get that you want more, but expectations may have been artificially inflated there.
After that, the Teemer injury isn’t something you plan for. So, it comes down to Kueter. I was hoping for more, but I came out of the match more remembering how good Bastida is on his feet than Kueter not being that good. This is the same guy that beat Hendrickson 12-7 last year, so I am willing to cut Kueter some slack for now.
With that said, Iowa is still really good at 133, 149 and 165-285 and hopefully they can add 157 back to that column by NCAA’s. The sky is still up there and is in no danger of falling…
After that, the Teemer injury isn’t something you plan for. So, it comes down to Kueter. I was hoping for more, but I came out of the match more remembering how good Bastida is on his feet than Kueter not being that good. This is the same guy that beat Hendrickson 12-7 last year, so I am willing to cut Kueter some slack for now.
With that said, Iowa is still really good at 133, 149 and 165-285 and hopefully they can add 157 back to that column by NCAA’s. The sky is still up there and is in no danger of falling…
I wish there was a 215-220# weight class in college.
I'm not that discouraged by Keuter I think he could put some elements together. He definitely skips leg days though.
Bastida is really good and strong as an ox. BK is still a little undersized.
Ferrari going to Ferrari, he's our Ferrari though.
Looked tough as shit, he's going to win some Nattys for us one day!
Ben has more skill, he's just not big enough yet. Goes back to what everyone is saying, there really needs to be a 220lb class.
Just stupid, what kind of logic makes the next jump from 197 285?
Idiocy
Or he could just quit bouncing back and forth with football and finally grow into the weight class.
He’s world class at 215 and I doubt football would keep him from growing. He can play DE at 265
125: D. Not ready for primetime.
133: A. Tough opponent, good win.
141: D. See 125.
149: C. Don't be happy to win like that.
157: N/A. Not gonna victim-blame, but ya gotta stretch and have those muscles warmed up and loose.
165: C. Two unnecessarily nerve-wracking matches in a row.
174: A. Fought hard for the tech. More Kennedy please.
184: A-. Shoulda had the major, but fun to watch. He's a stud.
197: A. Carroll's gameplan was to keep it close, and Buchanan got the major anyway.
285: B. Batista is too much for Kueter, who--sorry, I'm gonna say it--doesn't look like a U23 world finalist.
Kudos to Tom for putting Kennedy and Ferrari in there tonight, and the sharp eye on the 149 penalty points. His comments about 125 & 141 were essentially, they gotta man up, and that's accurate.
B1G+ gets a D. Wrong names. Incorrect season records. No riding time displayed. "Winner by fall" graphic at the end of Teemer's match. Douchey announcers (I had to change to Ironside audio after 133).
Overall, some disappointing moments (#1 being Teemer's injury, of course), but an entertaining dual with a few bright spots. Let's hope for the best with Teemer.
133: A. Tough opponent, good win.
141: D. See 125.
149: C. Don't be happy to win like that.
157: N/A. Not gonna victim-blame, but ya gotta stretch and have those muscles warmed up and loose.
165: C. Two unnecessarily nerve-wracking matches in a row.
174: A. Fought hard for the tech. More Kennedy please.
184: A-. Shoulda had the major, but fun to watch. He's a stud.
197: A. Carroll's gameplan was to keep it close, and Buchanan got the major anyway.
285: B. Batista is too much for Kueter, who--sorry, I'm gonna say it--doesn't look like a U23 world finalist.
Kudos to Tom for putting Kennedy and Ferrari in there tonight, and the sharp eye on the 149 penalty points. His comments about 125 & 141 were essentially, they gotta man up, and that's accurate.
B1G+ gets a D. Wrong names. Incorrect season records. No riding time displayed. "Winner by fall" graphic at the end of Teemer's match. Douchey announcers (I had to change to Ironside audio after 133).
Overall, some disappointing moments (#1 being Teemer's injury, of course), but an entertaining dual with a few bright spots. Let's hope for the best with Teemer.
He was playing LB. Which make sense to stay around the 220ish range. Are we even sure with roster limits next year he'll have a spot on the football team?
@smalls103 post after Teemers injury
Buchanan continues to impress me. Solid in all positions. That 10-0 win tonight was smooth as silk over another quality opponent.
Kennedy seemed to maybe have a little chippiness in his post match interview. Regardless, I loved his comment, something to the effect of having a mentality of "Put your damn boots on and get your ass to work".
I know he is playing LB but guys like him have the frame to get up to DE. Seems like a reasonable compromise but I honestly think he should stick to wrestling
Meh, he talks about the $$$ with all programs.... er, wait.
Im not surprised. Didn’t get any matches as redshirt recovering from ACL surgery, then makes a cut I didn’t think would be possible. He needs to eat and lift to get some muscle on that 6 ft frame, too weak and poor stamina. Drake may not have great year, but if he gets dedicated in the weight room all off season he should have the horsepower to finish those shots, and maybe even have a little top game.
You covered the standard excuses.
At least Hawks found their 174 tonite.
I'm starting to wonder if BK won't have trouble adding the wrestling weight?
Cause if the $$$ continues, I doubt he goes back to football.
I'm starting to wonder if BK won't have trouble adding the wrestling weight?
Cause if the $$$ continues, I doubt he goes back to football.
The guy is a total badass.
Ya, it kinda was today
agree. it’s a long season. we have seen freshman take early losses and end up having a great season. no need to get down on the young bucks. plenty of time to iron out the bottom issues
A lot of BAD takes in here tonight lol
Whatever you call it, 💯 better than Nelson hand fights.
that’s sarcasm right? it’s hard to tell in these pbp threads…
100%. Too many people freaking out about small sample sizes.
Another Iowa/ISU dual meet.
Another ISU loss.
Damn, some things never change.
Did Iowa give Riggins NIL $$$ to transfer to Ames???
Petersen wasn’t but block was a pretty big recruit. #2 in his weight class and I’m guessing top 20 in the class. Not as big as guys like Ferrari or Arnold but I expected more. I’m sure the cut is playing a factor, hopefully he figures it out because he’s looked rough so far
Yeah, you could say Block was on the fringe of being a top recruit. But, like I said, he is coming off a major injury that pretty much makes this his true freshman season when you consider how much time the injury set him back. Hell, in many cases that injury could put him even further back then where he started when he first got to Iowa.
If his body is truly more suited to 149 or higher, he has two major obstacles to get past before even considering training and lack of experience…
His first 2 take downs he out horse powered him. Ben puts on 15 lbs and keeps getting stronger in weight room, he wins. Actually, if he was better at finishing that near cradle he wins. He should practice suckering guys into near and far cradles with his length. Batisda being a former fast 197 was very quick also. Many thought he would beat Kirk for championship last year. Then choked hard in ncaa’s. Don’t forget how he easily handled Hendrickson at the end of last year.
Some Iowa fans and some of the Iowa State bench were going back and forth and Robin Wilson, Director of Operations for Iowa State, called security on them lol.
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